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On 31/01/2005, at 5:48 PM, Norio Korekawa wrote:

Hi Scott,

Thank you for your prompt reply.

Hello,

I have a question on external_acl_type and I hope someone will kindly
give me comments or answers.

Firstly, my squid is Squid Cache: Version 2.5.STABLE1, I'm running
it on Red Hat Linux release 9 (Shrike) and the basic part of my
squid.conf is as follows:


--- my squid.conf --- auth_param basic program /usr/lib/squid/ncsa_auth /etc/squid/passwd auth_param basic children 5 auth_param basic realm Squid proxy-caching web server auth_param basic credentialsttl 2 hours

external_acl_type myacltype %LOGIN %SRC %DST %{Referer} %{User-Agent}
/usr/lib/squid/myaclhelper.pl
acl myacl external myacltype

acl user_auth_acl proxy_auth REQUIRED
http_access deny !user_auth_acl

I think this should be closer to

http_access allow user_auth_acl myacl

This way it is an AND statement as at the moment it is actually an OR
statement

I see. I tried your http_access statement above, but the result seemed
to be same. So I think the following 1. and 2. are equivalent, of course,
1. is much better.


1. http_access allow user_auth_acl myacl

This could possibly benefit from a

http_access deny all

afterwards looking at it closer.. although the basis of the final rule being opposite means that it is a deny anyway

2. http_access deny !user_auth_acl
   http_access deny !myacl
   http_access allow all

Based on the above comment this actually has a fall through allowing anything that does not get caught in the above 2 statements.


http_access deny !myacl
http_access allow all
--- my squid.conf ---


My question is:

It seems that myaclhelper.pl is called by squid, every time new URL
is accessed, but is this correct action?  I think it should not be
called, once myacl passes, that is, myaclhelper.pl returns "OK".
In fact, ncsa_auth seems not to be called, once HTTP basic
authentication
passes...

There is another option that specifies how long the helper caches it
data for....

external_acl_type myacltype ttl=600 %LOGIN %SRC %DST %{Referer}
%{User-Agent} /usr/lib/squid/myaclhelper.pl

Where 600 is the cached answer timer.

For testing I normally set it really low so that the responses are
almost real-time but in the real world this creates way too much
overhead.

Yes, I already tried ttl with the following statement, but the result did not change... If this was true, I think myaclhelper.pl would not be kicked by squid within one hour after myacl passes. Or is this my misunderstanding...?

external_acl_type myacltype ttl=3600 negative_ttl=120 %LOGIN %SRC %DST %{Referer} %{User-Agent} /usr/lib/squid/myaclhelper.pl

# ttl=n TTL in seconds for cached results (defaults to 3600
# for 1 hour)


Thanks.
Norio


I think you are understanding rightly.. the ttl is the timer for the helper, meaning that the helper has a cache and that cache is cleared when the ttl of the helper is expired


I think the helper is destroyed and a new one is spawned at this point...


I think my squid.conf has some problems, but I don't know what they
are...

Any answer would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Norio


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