and with all threads :
bego3 ~ # cat /storage/tmp/log6
warning: Unable to find libthread_db matching inferior's thread
library, thread debugging will not be available.
Core was generated by `/usr/local/bin/qemu -name xpvirtser001
-readconfig /etc/ich9-ehci-uhci.cfg -dev'.
Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
#0 ring_add (item=<optimized out>, ring=<optimized out>) at
../spice-common/common/ring.h:61
61 ring->next = item->next->prev = item;
(gdb) thread apply all bt
Thread 5 (LWP 3065):
#0 0x00007f9036826033 in select () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1 0x00007f90395409d8 in os_host_main_loop_wait (timeout=4294967295)
at main-loop.c:308
#2 main_loop_wait (nonblocking=<optimized out>) at main-loop.c:496
#3 0x00007f903953ffa2 in main_loop () at
/tmp/qemu-0b3f79b9e9c17e97d8d8179defdb6e03cd9ddc8f/vl.c:1643
#4 main (argc=<optimized out>, argv=<optimized out>, envp=<optimized
out>) at /tmp/qemu-0b3f79b9e9c17e97d8d8179defdb6e03cd9ddc8f/vl.c:3755
Thread 4 (LWP 4885):
#0 0x00007f9036ae027b in pthread_cond_timedwait () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1 0x00007f903954f29a in cond_timedwait (ts=<optimized out>,
mutex=<optimized out>, cond=<optimized out>) at posix-aio-compat.c:107
#2 aio_thread (unused=<optimized out>) at posix-aio-compat.c:337
#3 0x00007f9036adb98c in ?? () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#4 0x00007f903682bfcd in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6
Thread 3 (LWP 3180):
#0 0x00007f9036adfefc in pthread_cond_wait () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1 0x00007f903956c62a in qemu_cond_wait (cond=0x7f903b6f4114,
mutex=0x80) at qemu-thread-posix.c:113
#2 0x00007f903959aac6 in vnc_worker_thread_loop
(queue=0x7f903b6f4110) at ui/vnc-jobs.c:222
#3 0x00007f903959af21 in vnc_worker_thread (arg=<optimized out>) at
ui/vnc-jobs.c:318
#4 0x00007f9036adb98c in ?? () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#5 0x00007f903682bfcd in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6
Thread 2 (LWP 3177):
#0 0x00007f9036825327 in ioctl () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1 0x00007f90395e8c26 in kvm_vcpu_ioctl (env=<optimized out>,
type=44672) at /tmp/qemu-0b3f79b9e9c17e97d8d8179defdb6e03cd9ddc8f/kvm-all.c:1648
#2 0x00007f90395e98e7 in kvm_cpu_exec (env=0x7f903ae0bb20) at
/tmp/qemu-0b3f79b9e9c17e97d8d8179defdb6e03cd9ddc8f/kvm-all.c:1535
#3 0x00007f90395a7167 in qemu_kvm_cpu_thread_fn (arg=<optimized out>)
at /tmp/qemu-0b3f79b9e9c17e97d8d8179defdb6e03cd9ddc8f/cpus.c:757
#4 0x00007f9036adb98c in ?? () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#5 0x00007f903682bfcd in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6
Thread 1 (LWP 3178):
#0 ring_add (item=<optimized out>, ring=<optimized out>) at
../spice-common/common/ring.h:61
#1 ring_add_after (pos=<optimized out>, item=<optimized out>) at
../spice-common/common/ring.h:66
#2 __current_add_drawable (pos=<optimized out>, drawable=<optimized
out>, worker=<optimized out>) at red_worker.c:2351
#3 red_current_add (worker=0x7f903b0298b0, ring=0x7f9010022ef8,
drawable=0x7f903b1e91e8) at red_worker.c:3479
#4 0x00007f90371c5f13 in red_current_add_qxl (red_drawable=<optimized
out>, ring=<optimized out>, worker=<optimized out>,
drawable=<optimized out>) at red_worker.c:3612
#5 red_process_drawable (group_id=<optimized out>,
drawable=<optimized out>, worker=<optimized out>) at red_worker.c:3953
#6 red_process_commands (worker=0x7f903b0298b0,
max_pipe_size=<optimized out>, ring_is_empty=0x7f90180d5ccc) at
red_worker.c:4902
#7 0x00007f90371c7fa5 in red_worker_main (arg=<optimized out>) at
red_worker.c:11778
#8 0x00007f9036adb98c in ?? () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#9 0x00007f903682bfcd in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6
2012/9/5 nicolas prochazka <prochazka.nicolas@xxxxxxxxx>:
> Hello,
> With the help of Alon, i can produce debug information :
>
> Core was generated by `/usr/local/bin/qemu -name xpvirtser001
> -readconfig /etc/ich9-ehci-uhci.cfg -dev'.
> Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
> #0 ring_add (item=<optimized out>, ring=<optimized out>) at
> ../spice-common/common/ring.h:61
> 61 ring->next = item->next->prev = item;
>
>
> Regards,
> Nicolas
>
> 2012/9/4 Alon Levy <alevy@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>>> hello
>>> libspice 0.11.3
>>> qemu 1.2rc2
>>>
>>> In windows XP Guest VM ,
>>> Change screensaver ( with small preview windows change)
>>> causes a segfault in libspice server .
>>>
>>> I can always reproduce it ,
>>> two logs juste before segfault.
>>>
>>>
>>> usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (0, 0) (194, 21)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:2030:red_clear_surface_drawables_from_pipe: surface 19
>>> dependent item found 0x7fdb3a46ae10, 0x7fdb3b132150
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 0: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (165, 455) (359, 613)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 7: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (5, 0) (199, 158)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:2030:red_clear_surface_drawables_from_pipe: surface 7
>>> dependent item found 0x7fdb3a46ccb0, 0x7fdb3ac64ce0
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 0: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (168, 437) (339, 452)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 19: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (3, 3) (174, 18)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:2030:red_clear_surface_drawables_from_pipe: surface 19
>>> dependent item found 0x7fdb3a46c818, 0x7fdb3ac987e0
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:2633:red_display_detach_stream_gracefully: stream 49:
>>> upgrade by screenshot. has current 0. box ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (257, 265) (409, 377)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 0: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (257, 265) (409, 377)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:2674:red_detach_streams_behind: stream 49
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): Spice-Debug **:
>>> red_dispatcher.c:309:async_command_alloc: 0x7fdaa007f4b0
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 7: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (0, 0) (32, 32)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:11443:worker_handle_dispatcher_async_done:
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): Spice-Debug **:
>>> red_dispatcher.c:960:red_dispatcher_async_complete: 0x7fdaa007f4b0:
>>> cookie 140576964702000
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): Spice-Debug **:
>>> red_dispatcher.c:962:red_dispatcher_async_complete: no more async
>>> commands
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): Spice-Debug **:
>>> red_dispatcher.c:309:async_command_alloc: 0x7fdaa00b6f30
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 20: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (0, 0) (16, 16)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:11443:worker_handle_dispatcher_async_done:
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): Spice-Debug **:
>>> red_dispatcher.c:960:red_dispatcher_async_complete: 0x7fdaa00b6f30:
>>> cookie 140576964474032
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): Spice-Debug **:
>>> red_dispatcher.c:962:red_dispatcher_async_complete: no more async
>>> commands
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 0: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (472, 596) (547, 619)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:11553): SpiceWorker-ERROR **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/ring.h:83:ring_remove: assertion `item->next
>>> !=
>>> NULL && item->prev != NULL' failed
>>> Aborted
>>>
>>>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 0: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (165, 434) (359, 455)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 22: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (0, 0) (194, 21)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:2030:red_clear_surface_drawables_from_pipe: surface 22
>>> dependent item found 0x7f67c1181838, 0x7f6728484650
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 0: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (168, 435) (358, 454)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 22: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (3, 1) (193, 20)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:2030:red_clear_surface_drawables_from_pipe: surface 22
>>> dependent item found 0x7f67c117e738, 0x7f672809f6e0
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 8: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (5, 0) (199, 158)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 0: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (165, 455) (359, 613)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 0: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (165, 455) (359, 613)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 25: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (0, 0) (194, 158)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:2030:red_clear_surface_drawables_from_pipe: surface 25
>>> dependent item found 0x7f67c11813a0, 0x7f672806db10
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 0: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (341, 435) (358, 454)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 22: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (176, 1) (193, 20)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:2030:red_clear_surface_drawables_from_pipe: surface 22
>>> dependent item found 0x7f67c117e118, 0x7f67280ab110
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 0: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (165, 434) (359, 455)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 10: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (0, 0) (194, 21)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:2030:red_clear_surface_drawables_from_pipe: surface 10
>>> dependent item found 0x7f67c11bd540, 0x7f6728189b90
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 0: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (165, 455) (359, 613)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 8: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (5, 0) (199, 158)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:2030:red_clear_surface_drawables_from_pipe: surface 8
>>> dependent item found 0x7f67c11bd540, 0x7f67285e68c0
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 0: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (168, 437) (339, 452)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 10: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (3, 3) (174, 18)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:2030:red_clear_surface_drawables_from_pipe: surface 10
>>> dependent item found 0x7f67c1181838, 0x7f67281b6310
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:10258:display_channel_release_item: not pushed (101)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:2633:red_display_detach_stream_gracefully: stream 49:
>>> upgrade by screenshot. has current 0. box ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (257, 265) (409, 377)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:4593:red_update_area: surface 0: area ==>
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> ../spice-common/common/rect.h:91:rect_debug: (257, 265) (409, 377)
>>> (/usr/local/bin/qemu:21130): SpiceWorker-Debug **:
>>> red_worker.c:2674:red_detach_streams_behind: stream 49
>>> Segmentation fault
>>>
>>
>> Hi Nicolas,
>>
>> Thanks for the report (s), can you please provide a stacktrace of qemu when it segfaults?
>> Simplest way differs depending on how you run it:
>> 1) standalone - you launch qemu directly. Then run it under gdb:
>> gdb --args qemu...
>> r
>> <do what leads to segfault>
>> thread apply all bt
>> 2) you launch qemu via libvirt / any other means.
>> launch qemu normally
>> if this is the only copy of qemu that is running, you can launch:
>> gdb -p `pgrep qemu`
>> if you have more then one, you'll need to identify the pid yourself.
>> <do what leads to segfault>
>> thread apply all bt
>>
>> Alon
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Nicolas
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