On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:55:48AM -0400, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > Can you quote the relevant part of the slide? See page 20 "Freeze bitstream format" with a check mark to its side Page 3 too "WGLC (Working Group Last Call) last minor bitstream changes" There are probably more details about this in the video. > > > > Sticking to celt051 is still a safer alternative. > > > > Not suggesting dropping celt051 support upstream... > > Why do you suggest that? I probably misinterpreted your "Sticking to celt051..". Of course it's the best alternative compatibility wise, but the reason for this thread is that Debian does not want it. > We don't want to introduce changes that will break in the future, even > knowingly, as we want to maintain compatibility. That's the reason why > the update celt codec never went upstream. As long as we don't drop celt051 support, that Opus can be disabled (it can be be disabled by default), that our position about compatibility/interoperability is clear, having support for it would be a good thing, especially since it would mean a good SPICE in Debian. Maybe I'm putting too much trust on the Opus people not making regular breaks to the Opus bitstream format, but I think it's a chance we should take. > But we can't force people from > not forking and do what pleases them. Regarding current Spice upstream, > we better stay off those experimental and unstable path. Experimental and unstable as in "being standardized by IETF"? Opus is not final yet, but a this point I hope it's out of the experimental zone and is stable enough. > > > If something would show up, the spice team would > > > certainly update it. So I wouldn't say unmaintained. > > > > Is anyone from the team monitoring celt security issues and whether > > they > > apply to celt 0.5.1? > > I would be really surprised if nobody is fixing spice celt security issues for RHEL. And this would magically trigger a celt 0.5.1 update from the spice team? I assume you were talking about making new celt .tar.gz available. Christophe
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