On 09/19/2017 08:43 AM, Eric Saint Etienne wrote: > I am sorry for every Sparc users because it was a chance for them to > easily explore and use machine description without having to install > an external tool and a scripting language plus dependencies (potentially > a lot of dependency). Users may also not know about /dev/mdesc whereas > a mere "grep -ri cache /sys" would be fruitful. I agree and I found your argumentation very reasonable and convincing. Users are looking for hardware information below /sysfs, not somewhere in /dev. /dev would actually be the last location I'd ever expect to provide hardware information. It also shouldn't be necessary to install a special tool to be able to parse hardware information. /dev/mdesc sounds like a relict from the old Linux days to me which should be superceded by sysfs. Wasn't it a goal to eventually move all system information to sysfs and even removing the remains from /proc in the distant future as /proc is actually the process filesystem and not for system information? > Also mdesc is root accessible only. Exposing all or even just a selection > of machine description nodes to users via sysfs provides them with the > visibility of for instance TLBs and Caches (number, size, and more > importantly how they are organized in the processor). That's even worse. Users should be able to retrieve system information without being the root user. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaubitz@xxxxxxxxxx `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaubitz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx `- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe sparclinux" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html