On 06/22/2016 10:54 PM, chase rayfield wrote: > Also, who seriously runs Firefox on a T4 server or a LEON4 system or > vintage sun4 gear like I have? I didn't claim that you should be running Firefox on a T4 server. I was giving an example of something which needs more than 4 GiB per process when *linking*, not running it. Please don't turn this into "Back in the days" flamefest, these discussions are always stupid. We are doing software engineering and that is subject to changes because the requirements on the hard- and software are changing and increasing. I am coming from a physics background and I used to do number crunching on machines with 2 TiB of memory (SGI UV-1000). When you are doing computational physics, 4 GiB are nothing. I have seen single processes consume 700 GiB which were doing complex matrix calculations. > sparc64 kernel + 32bit userland will probably never go away it's what > most people should be running. So, you'll just end up loosing userbase > further and inevitably dropping the Debian Sparc port. Sorry, but this is just laughable. Are you seriously saying that someone is buying a $40k SPARC-T7 server and then start running a self-compiled 32-bit distribution on that? Those machines can be configured with up to 8 TiB of memory per machine [1]. No one is going to pay so much money and then not use the capabilities it has. sparc64 is what Oracle is currently pouring resources into and what companies who are willing to pay several grand for a new SPARC server are going to run. Do you really think that companies are investing into the SPARC port because they are targeting hobbyists that want to run SPARC Linux on museum hardware? Adrian > [1] http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/sun-sparc-enterprise/documentation/sparc-t7-m7-server-architecture-2702877.pdf -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaubitz@xxxxxxxxxx `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaubitz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx `- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe sparclinux" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
