I see commented-out text about these bandwidth descriptions: The <max-bw-ti> Element The <max-bw-ti> element defined as the <max-bw> element with the following exceptions. The given bandwidth limit is transport independent and therefore does not include include the bandwidth needed for lower-layer transport and network protocols (e.g., UDP and IP). The bandwidth limit is given in bits per second (i.e., not in kilobits per second). The <max-bw-ti> element MAY have the following attribute (see <xref target="sec_attributes" />): pprate. The maxprate attribute The <max-bw-ti> element has an optional attribute 'maxprate'. The "maxprate" value is the maximum packet rate calculated over all the declared media streams. If this can't be measured (stored media) or estimated (live), the sum of all media level values provides a ceiling value. All other attributes and merging rules are defined as for the <max-bw> element. Do people think these data are significant, or can they be safely omitted from the media-policy-dataset? Dale _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx for questions on current sip Use sip@xxxxxxxx for new developments of core SIP