In a number of places, draft-ietf-sipping-media-policy-dataset-10 specifies that one element must have one or more children of a particular type. In many of these cases, having zero children would have a well-defined meaning. And in various situations, it is difficult to define appropriate processing without allowing zero children. I am proposing that we modify the draft to admit zero children whenever this has a well-defined meaning. The two cases I've identified so far are: A <streams> element with zero <stream> children, indicating a session with no media streams. This is needed to be able to encode SDP descriptions that contain zero m= lines (which is permitted by RFC 4566). In various situations where a policy is specified, we need a way to specify that no value of a particular attribute is allowed. This describes a policy that accepts no media streams, which can happen if two policies are merged that have no overlap. Without this change, one would not be able to express the conjunction of two incompatible policies at all. Comments? Dale _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx for questions on current sip Use sip@xxxxxxxx for new developments of core SIP