Re: [Sipping] About offeranswer draft:

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Hi Gao,

Considering a BCP recommendation in this case,

>When UAC receives the different SDP in a reliable response from
>the prior one in a non-reliable response, UAC may ...
>1. terminate the session.
>2. keep using the SDP in a non-reliable response.
>3. change to the SDP in a reliable response.

and,
4. In case 2 or 3, it is recommended that the UAC confirms the current
   offer-answer status using a reINVITE or an UPDATE request.

However I think "may" is adequate in case 3.

Regards,
Shinji

gao.yang2@xxxxxxxxxx
Fri, 9 Apr 2010 11:44:34 +0800
>Hi,
>
>Yes, considering implementation, I also find the three ways, especially 
>for the last two ways.
>
>My original thought is make clarification on the third one("3. change to 
>the SDP in a reliable response"), by RFC3264's rule.
>
>In fact, I think by rules, the UAC should modify the session as it is the 
>lawful answer. Using early media by the SDP prior to the lawful answer is 
>something outside of the lawful rules(Reliably way of using early media is 
>Answer in 100rel). 
>
>So, I think using or just discarding the SDP prior to the lawful answer is 
>something depends on implementation. While "change to the SDP in a 
>reliable response" should be normative.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Gao
>
>OKUMURA Shinji <shinji.okumura@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>发件人:  sipping-bounces@xxxxxxxx
>2010-04-09 10:13
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>Re: [Sipping] About offeranswer draft:
>
>Hi Gao,
>
>I have no doubt that the different SDP in non-reliable response
>violates current regulations.
>
>The behaviour of UAC is an implementation issue, I think.
>When UAS receives the different SDP in a reliable response from
>the prior one in a non-reliable response, UAS may ...
>1. terminate the session.
>2. keep using the SDP in a non-reliable response.
>3. change to the SDP in a reliable response.
>
>It is not clear, but it is not a regular case.
>
>Regards,
>Shinji
>
>gao.yang2@xxxxxxxxxx
>Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:14:07 +0800
>>Hi Paul,
>>
>>While considering one problem in our production's interoperability 
>>testing, I re-read some parts of offeranswer draft and find something 
>>might be deserving discussion.
>>
>>//begin of text(part):
>>   For example, in Figure 1, only the SDP in F6 is the answer.  The SDP
>>   in the non-reliable response (F2) is the preview of the answer and
>>   must be the same as the answer in F6.  Receiving F2, the UAC should
>>   act as if it receives the answer.
>>//end of text(part)
>>
>>[Gao] In fact, UAS sending SDP in non-reliable response is for potential 
>>early media usage. Considering some UAS may have different address for 
>>early media channel and the final session, some UAS may send different 
>>SDP(compare with the answer) in non-reliable response. And I really found 
>
>>such equipment inside and outside of ZTE. And considering UAC, I think we 
>
>>should allow the UAC ignore the SDP in non-reliable response, while some 
>>UAC really do not handle any SDP which is not offer or answer. 
>>
>>But the permissibility of the degree of the difference might be delicate. 
>
>>If the non-answer SDP just has different ip address or port, it seams OK. 
>
>>If the non-answer SDP has different media streams, it would be hard to 
>>handle for UAC.
>>
>>
>>And I re-read correlative part of RFC3261. I don't know that whether 
>>allowing different SDP(compare with the answer) in non-reliable response 
>>is violation/correction of current text or not.
>>
>>//correlative part of RFC3261
>>      o  If the initial offer is in an INVITE, the answer MUST be in a
>>         reliable non-failure message from UAS back to UAC which is
>>         correlated to that INVITE.  For this specification, that is
>>         only the final 2xx response to that INVITE.  That same exact
>>         answer MAY also be placed in any provisional responses sent
>>         prior to the answer.  The UAC MUST treat the first session
>>         description it receives as the answer, and MUST ignore any
>>         session descriptions in subsequent responses to the initial
>>         INVITE.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Gao
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