Re: PRACK: Change MUST requirement to include SDP offerin first reliable provisional response

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Hi,

I guess we could even say that the UAS SHOULD generate SDP offer in the first reliable response, unless it for whatever reason is not able to do so.

Regards,

Christer

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh) [mailto:sanjsinh@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: 31. maaliskuuta 2009 9:19
> To: Hisham Khartabil; Christer Holmberg
> Cc: sipping@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE:  PRACK: Change MUST requirement to 
> include SDP offerin first reliable provisional response
> 
>  
> Inline ..
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: sipping-bounces@xxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:sipping-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hisham Khartabil
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:30 AM
> >To: Christer Holmberg
> >Cc: sipping@xxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re:  PRACK: Change MUST requirement to include SDP 
> >offerin first reliable provisional response
> >
> >"
> >
> >RFC3262
> >
> >"If the UAC receives a reliable provisional response with an offer
> >   (this would occur if the UAC sent an INVITE without an offer, in
> >   which case the first reliable provisional response will 
> contain the
> >   offer), it MUST generate an answer in the PRACK."
> >
> >Can you point to the text that says SDP offer does not need 
> to occur in 
> >the 1st reliable response?
> 
> Yeah the rule says that SDP offer is MUST in reliable 
> provisional response and Christer's email is about relaxing that rule.
> 
> Sanjay
> 
> >
> >Hisham
> >
> >2009/3/31 Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> One of the PRACK related issues presented in SFO is whether
> >we should
> >> change the requirement to include SDP offer in the first reliable 
> >> provisional response, if the INVITE does not contain SDP.
> >>
> >> Two use-cases, which the current requirement affect, were 
> presented:
> >> 1. H.323/SIP interworking, where an empty INVITE may have been 
> >> received and an SDP offer is not available when the first
> >reliable 18x
> >> is to be sent (please see meeting slides for details).
> >>
> >> 2. Call fowarding, when a 181 provisional is sent. The 181
> >may be sent
> >> by an intermediate, and if the INVITE did not contain SDP 
> a reliable
> >> 181 would be required to contain an SDP offer.
> >>
> >> It was indicated that there may be backward compability 
> issues. That 
> >> of course depends on the number of deployments where 
> INVITE without 
> >> SDP is sent AND a reliable 18x without SDP offer would cause
> >an error.
> >>
> >> Some people indicated concern, so I would like to ask what
> >people think?
> >> Would changing the rules cause problems in existing deploymentnts?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Christer
> >>
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