Re: PRACK: Change MUST requirement to include SDP offer in first reliable provisional response

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Christer Holmberg wrote:

Hi,

One of the PRACK related issues presented in SFO is whether we should change the requirement to include SDP offer in the first reliable provisional response, if the INVITE does not contain SDP.

Two use-cases, which the current requirement affect, were presented:
1. H.323/SIP interworking, where an empty INVITE may have been received and an SDP offer is not available when the first reliable 18x is to be sent (please see meeting slides for details).

This is the issue I hear complaints about.

2. Call fowarding, when a 181 provisional is sent. The 181 may be sent by an intermediate, and if the INVITE did not contain SDP a reliable 181 would be required to contain an SDP offer.

This is only an issue if the INVITE contained Require:100rel. (And AFAIK that is rarely the case. If it was the case the 181 could simply be omitted.)

Otherwise, an unreliable 181 can be sent, which needn't have SDP.

Another possibility would be to send a 181 with bogus SDP. For instance it could have c=0 and port=0 for all the media. That could work even reliably. And it wouldn't affect any real answers because it will have a unique to-tag.

It was indicated that there may be backward compability issues. That of course depends on the number of deployments where INVITE without SDP is sent AND a reliable 18x without SDP offer would cause an error.

Some people indicated concern, so I would like to ask what people think? Would changing the rules cause problems in existing deploymentnts?

I'll have to ask around.

	Paul

Regards,
Christer


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