comments on draft-johnston-sipping-cc-uui-07

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While I agree that INFO does not solve the problem raised in this draft, I think the problem space is sufficiently similar that it is worth looking at what we did for INFO-events, and whether similar things would be needed here.

Both INFO and UUI are similar in that:

* they carry information that is opaque to intermediaries; the intermediaries just carry the data
 * the information is 'application oriented' in nature
* the contents themselves can be lots of different things, oftentimes not even standardized

For INFO, we all seemed to agree that what we needed was some clear way of carrying meta-data about the content. In particular:

  * an 'event-like' parameter for typing the data
  * content-type to allow decode
  * content length

It seems to me that, all of the same reasons we wanted a framework for INFO, apply here too. Are we not concerned that an INVITE might get forwarded somewhere not quite intended, and something will get that UUI and not know what to do with it? Or worse, mis-parse it and do the wrong thing?

Is there a need for some kind of scoping? A way to have proxies or SBCs remove UUI when it leaves a perimeter of trust, ala spec-T?

I understand that these features are not present in ISDN; however, SIP networks are not the same as circuit networks, and the likelihood that UUI 'escapes' and goes somewhere unintended seems much higher to me in SIP. I can see lots of uses for this mechanism, and would hate this turn into our next INFO-disaster.

Thanks,
Jonathan R.


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