Re: I-D Action:draft-loreto-sipping-context-id-requirements-02.txt

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I still don't buy the media session correlation part of this in section
2.

In 2.1, the statement "Two SIP dialogs will be established: one between
the desk phone and
   Bob's UA and one between the soft client and Bob's UA." is of
concern.
There is nothing in the prior description of the use case to say that
there must be two SIP dialogs.

In 2.2, the statement "A SIP dialog between Bob's IP-TV device and
Laura's UA needs to be
   established." is of concern.
It does not necessarily follow from the prior description of the use
case that a separate dialog needs to be established.

In 2.3, the statement "A SIP dialog between Bob's PC and Laura's
multimedia phone needs to
   be established." is of concern.
It does not necessarily follow from the prior description of the use
case that a separate dialog needs to be established.

In 2.4, the statement "That is, Bob wants Laura to treat both streams
   as if both had been established using a single SIP dialog." is of
concern.
There is nothing in the prior description of the use case to state that
it is not a single SIP dialog.

In 2.5, the statement "A SIP dialog between Bob's webcam
   phone at this summer cottage and Laura's multimedia phone needs to be
   established." is of concern.
This does not necessarily follow from the prior description of the use
case.

In 2.6, the statement "Two SIP dialogs need to be established:
   one between Bob's UA and Laura's desk phone and one between Bob's UA
   and Laura's multimedia phone." is of concern.
This does not follow from the prior description of the use case.

Consequently I am not convinced that "REQ1  It must be possible to
correlate an already existing dialog or
      dialogs with a new dialog or dialogs as relating to the same media
      session."
is requirement we need to address.

I agree that handling different media within a session on different
devices on the calling side and/or the called side is an interesting
scenario. However, I believe one of the requirements is as follows:
"REQx: It must be possible for a user participating in a multi-media
session to use different devices for different media, without requiring
any special support at the peer UA, other than the need to support
different remote IP addresses for different media."

Otherwise users want to use different devices in this way would be
dependent on special support at peer multimedia devices.

John





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> Action:draft-loreto-sipping-context-id-requirements-02.txt
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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line 
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> 	Title           : Requirements for Dialog Correlation 
> in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)
> 	Author(s)       : G. Camarillo, S. Loreto
> 	Filename        : 
> draft-loreto-sipping-context-id-requirements-02.txt
> 	Pages           : 10
> 	Date            : 2009-03-05
> 
> This document justifies the need and lists the requirements for
> correlating SIP (Session Initiation Protocol) dialogs.  The
> correlated dialogs may or may not be related to the same multimedia
> session.  Being able to logically correlate multiple SIP dialogs is
> useful for applications that, for different reasons, need to
> establish several SIP dialogs to provide a given service.  The
> logical correlation of two SIP dialogs is also useful, for instance,
> to correlate an incoming with an outgoing dialog at a B2BUA.
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