Re: New Internet Draft for Caller Identity Blocking

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: sipping-bounces@xxxxxxxx 
>[mailto:sipping-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Avasarala Ranjit-A20990
>Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:01 PM
>To: Nils Ohlmeier; Victor Pascual Ávila
>Cc: sipping@xxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re:  New Internet Draft for Caller Identity Blocking
>
>Hi Nils
>
>A originator typically the UAC can send CANCEL if it does not 
>want to accept the call. 
Originator typically initiates the call and the recipient accepts the call. How does originator accept it's own call?


Sanjay

> So the Reason header with block 
>option can be sent while rejecting the call. While the Reason 
>header with block option can be sent in BYE while terminating 
>the call - i. e blocking after talking.
> 
>
>
>Regards
>Ranjit
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Nils Ohlmeier [mailto:lists@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:33 AM
>To: Victor Pascual Ávila
>Cc: Avasarala Ranjit-A20990; sipping@xxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re:  New Internet Draft for Caller Identity Blocking
>
>Hi Victor,
>
>Am 02.03.2009 21:28 Uhr, schrieb Victor Pascual Ávila:
>> Hi Nils,
>> thanks for your comments.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Nils 
>Ohlmeier<lists@xxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>>> you and your draft are talking about allowing the terminating UA to 
>>> give some "feedback" for an incoming call. How is this related to 
>>> CANCEL at all? Maybe I'm missing here something but a 
>CANCEL is only 
>>> send by the originator if the call was not yet established, right?!
>>
>> IMHO it might make sense when dealing with B2BUAs (e.g. a 
>3pcc service).
>>
>> Please, correct me if I'm wrong.
>
>I assume you mean that a B2BUA could cancel the outgoing call leg. But
>a) where does the B2BUA gets suddenly the information from (if 
>it has the blocking information already it would reject the 
>incoming call leg, so there is nothing to cancel) and b) how 
>is this different from a forking proxy (which obviously needs 
>to cancel the remaining forked call legs if the user has 
>rejected the call at one of the legs)?
>
>So I have to fealing that I'm still missing here something.
>A CANCEL goes from originator to the receiver of a request. 
>But you want to send the blocking information in the other 
>direction. Or do you assume that an entity which processes the 
>blocking information could sit at the terminating side of a call leg?
>
>I fear that I would need an example or call flow to get the 
>use case for a CANCEL.
>
>Cheers
>   Nils
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