On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 4:33 PM David Disseldorp <ddiss@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi Paul and Stephen, > > On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 11:55:31 -0400, Paul Moore wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 8:21 AM Stephen Smalley > > <stephen.smalley.work@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 6:08 AM David Disseldorp <ddiss@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > Extended attribute copy-up functionality added via 19472b69d639d > > > > ("selinux: Implementation for inode_copy_up_xattr() hook") sees > > > > "security.selinux" contexts dropped, instead relying on contexts > > > > applied via the inode_copy_up() hook. > > > > > > > > When copy-up takes place during early boot, prior to selinux > > > > initialization / policy load, the context stripping can be unwanted > > > > and unexpected. Make filtering dependent on selinux_initialized(). > > > > > > > > RFC: This changes user behaviour so is likely unacceptable. Still, > > > > I'd be interested in hearing other suggestions for how this could be > > > > addressed. > > > > > > IMHO, this is fixing a bug, only affects early userspace (pre policy > > > load), and is likely acceptable. > > > But Paul will make the final call. We can't introduce and use a new > > > policy capability here because this is before policy has been loaded. > > > > I agree with Stephen, this is a bug fix so I wouldn't worry too much > > about user visible behavior. For better or worse, the > > SELinux-enabled-but-no-policy-loaded case has always been a bit > > awkward and has required multiple patches over the years to correct > > unwanted behaviors. > > Understood. > > > I'm open to comments on this, but I don't believe this is something we > > want to see backported to the stable kernels, and considering we are > > currently at v6.6-rc6, this isn't really a candidate for the upcoming > > merge window. This means we have a few more weeks to comment, test, > > etc. and one of the things I would like to see is a better description > > of before-and-after labeling in the commit description. This helps > > people who trip over this change, identify what changed, and helps > > them resolve the problem on their systems. > > > > Does that sound good? > > That sounds good to me. I'll rework the commit description (and comment > above this change), do some further testing and then submit a v2. Hi David, No rush, I just wanted to check in on this and see how things were going? -- paul-moore.com