Re: Userspace AVC auditing on policy load

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Chris PeBenito <chpebeni@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

> On 8/26/20 10:46 AM, Stephen Smalley wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 10:35 AM Chris PeBenito
>> <chpebeni@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 8/26/20 9:25 AM, Chris PeBenito wrote:
>>>> I was looking into this dbus-broker audit message, which has the wrong audit type:
>>>>
>>>> audit[422]: USER_AVC pid=422 uid=999 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
>>>> subj=system_u:system_r:system_dbusd_t msg='avc:  received policyload notice
>>>> (seqno=2)
>>>>
>>>> This is due to dbus-broker setting their avc log callback to send USER_AVC audit
>>>> messages for everything that comes to the libselinux log callback. I think the
>>>> right thing to do there is to change it to emit USER_SELINUX_ERR audit messages
>>>> if the log message is SELINUX_ERROR, otherwise log the message using their
>>>> regular method (stderr I think).
>>>>
>>>> But the question became, why is the userspace AVC not simply emitting its own
>>>> USER_MAC_POLICY_LOAD audit message instead of sending a message to the log
>>>> callback?
>>>
>>> Ok, I missed that there is a SELINUX_AVC log type and that's how the userspace
>>> denial messages are sent out. How about adding SELINUX_POLICYLOAD and
>>> SELINUX_ENFORCE log types so that callers can emit appropriate audit messages?
>> Do we need two different new types or just one?  Otherwise, I don't
>> have a problem with adding new ones as long as it doesn't break
>> existing applications.
>
> Regarding the risk of breaking existing applications, I did some
> checking on some userspace AVC users and what they do in their log
> callback:
>
> * systemd only audits SELINUX_AVC and SELINUX_ERROR messages and
>   ignores others(as Petr noted)
> * xorg-server audits SELINUX_AVC correctly but audits SELINUX_INFO as
>   USER_MAC_POLICY_LOAD and everything else it ignores the type and
>  audits as AUDIT_USER_SELINUX_ERR
> * dbus-broker ignores type and audits everything as USER_AVC
> * dbus-service ignores type and audits everything as USER AVC
> * pam: pam_rootok ignores type and audits everything as USER_AVC
> * sepgsql custom AVC implementation (this was news to me)
> * shadow-utils only audits SELINUX_AVC and SELINUX_ERROR messages and
>   others go to syslog
> * cronie: no callback set
>
> That's all the ones I could think of.  Which ones am I missing?

Probably libreswan, AFAIK that one might also still be using
avc_has_perm() instead of selinux_check_access().

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