Re: [SELinux-notebook PATCH v8] objects.md: some clarifications

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On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 3:54 AM Dominick Grift
<dominick.grift@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On 7/23/20 3:24 PM, Stephen Smalley wrote:
>  > There is a tension there with fail-closed versus fail-open and the
> > potential for a security vulnerability to arise if it proceeds.  Would
> > have to look at the specifics to evaluate how it should be handled.
> > Of course, in practice, one really shouldn't be removing contexts
> > while they are still in use (or else use aliases to preserve some
> > degree of compatibility).
> >
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> I guess if there is tension be between GNU/Linux use of libselinux and
> SEAndroids use of libselinux, where SE for Android is implemented by the
> vendor to be immutable by the device owner, and where GNU/Linux
> leverages SELinux to empower device owners, then any tension can be
> alleviated if Google forks libselinux. In GNU/Linux it should just be
> possible to switch policies.

I wasn't talking about Android, just about the tension of
fail-closed/secure versus fail-open/insecure in general.
I don't have any problem with someone installing a new policy that
completely changes the set of file contexts; I just don't think they
should do that at runtime without a reboot in between and expect
things to work seamlessly.



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