Re: [RFC PATCH] selinux: runtime disable is deprecated, add some ssleep() discomfort

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On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 9:29 AM Ondrej Mosnacek <omosnace@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Good point about the installer. I have already started working on
> preparing Fedora for the runtime disable removal, but so far I'm only
> at the beginning. Updating anaconda to add selinux=0 to the kernel
> params instead of using /etc/selinux/config will be one of the main
> steps.

...

> I also prefer to rather go somewhere in this direction rather than
> introducing the delay. I was kinda OK with the delay at first, but as
> Stephen points out, it would punish users rather than distros, even
> though users are (normally) not the ones that make a conscious
> decision to use the runtime disable.

...

> Yes, I was under the impression that some changes in libselinux are
> needed before this works transparently, but apparently it already does
> the right thing now. In that case I'd say that it may be better to
> skip adding sleeps etc. and just remove the feature at some point. But
> please let's wait with that for a while longer so we can prepare
> Fedora for it first. It's hard to tell at this point how long that
> will take, but it could be several months.
>
> Then again, the sleep might be helpful to wake up potential non-Fedora
> users (if any) and in Fedora we can always apply a revert as a
> downstream patch until things are sorted. So if you guys really want
> it, I think we can deal with it.

I'm glad to hear Fedora is making changes to move away from the
runtime disable, please keep us updated about once a month so we know
where things are at with Fedora.

As I mentioned previously, I'm okay with postponing the delay so long
as Fedora is making progress - and according to Ondrej they are - so
I'm okay with holding off for now.

-- 
paul moore
www.paul-moore.com



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