On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 at 10:00:31 -0500, Stephen Smalley wrote: > Looks like userspace is generally forgiving of whether the terminating NUL > byte is included or omitted by the kernel (with different behaviors for > SELinux - always included, Smack - omitted by /proc/pid/attr/current but > included in SO_PEERSEC, and AppArmor - omitted for /proc/pid/attr/current > but includes a terminating \n, omitted for SO_PEERSEC but no terminating > \n), and procps-ng explicitly tests for printable characters (but truncates > on the first unprintable character). Because LSM people have told me in the past that the '\0' is not conceptually part of the label, the D-Bus specification and reference implementation already assume that its presence or absence is irrelevant, and normalize to a canonical form (which happens to be that it appends a '\0' if missing, to be nice to C-like languages, but I could equally have chosen to strip the '\0' and rely on an out-of-band length count). By design, SO_PEERCONTEXT and /proc/pid/attr/context don't (can't!) preserve whether the label originally ended with '\0' or not (because they are designed to use '\0' as a terminator for each label), so these new kernel interfaces are already a bit closer than the old kernel interfaces to how D-Bus represents this information. The problematic case is AppArmor's terminating '\n' on /proc/pid/attr/current, because when I asked in the past, I was told that it would be (unwise but) valid to have a LSM where "foo" and "foo\n" are distinct labels. If that hypothetical LSM would make procps-ng lose information (because procps-ng truncates at the first unprintable character), does that change the situation any? Would that make it acceptable for other LSM-agnostic user-space components, like the reference implementation of D-Bus, to assume that stripping a trailing newline from /proc/pid/attr/context or from one of the component strings of /proc/pid/attr/current is a non-lossy operation? > > > If this new API is an opportunity to declare that LSMs are expected > > > to put the same canonical form of a label in > > > /proc/$pid/attr/context and > > > SO_PEERCONTEXT, possibly with a non-canonical version (adding '\n' or > > > '\0' or similar) exposed in the older /proc/$pid/attr/current and > > > SO_PEERSEC interfaces for backwards compatibility, then that > > > would make > > > life a lot easier for user-space developers like me. > > > > I'm all for this but the current implementation reuses the same > > underlying hooks as SO_PEERSEC, so it gets the same result for the > > per-lsm values. We'd need a separate hook if we cannot alter the > > current AppArmor SO_PEERSEC format. If AppArmor was going to change the format of one of its interfaces (or deviate from it when implementing new interfaces), I'd actually prefer it to be /proc/pid/attr/current that changed or was superseded, because /proc/pid/attr/current is the one that contains a newline that consumers are meant to ignore. For what it's worth, libapparmor explicitly removes the newline, so this only matters to LSM-agnostic readers like D-Bus implementations, and to lower-level AppArmor-aware readers that use the kernel interfaces directly in preference to using libapparmor. smcv