Re: httpd_graceful_shutdown makes httpd_can_network_connect mostly mute

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On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 02:59:34PM -0400, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> On Wed, 2017-08-02 at 18:35 +0200, Dominick Grift wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 04:41:00PM +0100, Carlos Rodrigues wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I don't know if this a too basic question to ask here, or the
> > > proper
> > > place, but here it goes:
> > > 
> > > I've been chasing some weird (to me) behavior with the targeted
> > > policy
> > > on a VM running nginx as a reverse proxy. What happens is that the
> > > "httpd_can_network_connect" boolean needs to be enabled for nginx
> > > to
> > > be able to reach its upstream servers. So far, so good.
> > > 
> > > However, if the upsteam server happens to be listening in one of
> > > the
> > > "http_port_t" ports, "httpd_can_network_connect" isn't needed
> > > because
> > > the "httpd_graceful_shutdown" (default enabled) provides the
> > > required
> > > allow rule ("name_connect").
> > > 
> > > This seems strange to me. Is this supposed to be like this? I would
> > > expect nginx to be totally unable to establish outbound connections
> > > by
> > > default.
> > > 
> > > Best regards,
> > > 
> > > Carlos Rodrigues
> > > 
> > > PS: I just spent a few hours on this, wondering why one machine
> > > needed
> > > "httpd_can_network_connect" and another did not. I guess I've
> > > mostly
> > > been setting up reverse proxies for "http_port_t" upstreams on
> > > CentOS
> > > all this time...
> > 
> > I think the "httpd_graceful_shutdown" is an apache thing (probably
> > for "apachectl graceful-stop"). However I cannot reproduce this
> > behavior with httpd-2.4.27-4.fc27.
> 
> Hmm...neither can I; seemingly apachectl graceful-stop works without
> requiring this boolean anymore.  So maybe it can be disabled by default
> and removed at some point in Fedora policy?
> 

Would be nice if we would be able to confirm this with the apache maintainer before jumping to conclusions.

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