-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 11:18:01AM +0100, Dominick Grift wrote: > Let's continue the discussion here. > > The last answered questionnaire is below, any further questions or > comments?: > I will start by adding a few comments. I agree that the SELinux user space object manager support is a bit fragile and rough edged. (I actually recently sent a message to this list pointing this out) Either something is wrong with that support or its documentation. I noticed that many developer focus a lot on uid=0, and forget that these day's you do not need access to uid=0 to ruin someones life. To me, from an SELinux perspective at least, a process is just a process regardless of the UID it is associated with. The most common use of SELinux is arguably distributions using it to enforce their policy on their customers hardware, This is fine but please remember that some customers which to be able to keep that discretion to them selves. I think that means in practice that one should keep that in mind at all times when something is implemented by not making any assumptions about whether something is useful or not when that is not appropriate. You may use access control for one this and I may use if for another. Your threat model may not align with my threat model. Let us not forget that SELinux is supposed to be a "flexible" MAC, this is one of the reasons why we use SELinux and not, say SMACK Thank you. That is all for now - -- 02DFF788 4D30 903A 1CF3 B756 FB48 1514 3148 83A2 02DF F788 https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x314883A202DFF788 Dominick Grift -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJWXsh/AAoJENAR6kfG5xmcM5sL/2m5mL9S947+4yy82L6SzC1g GV6vjG1D+FSwa0tMPXNTuYJcLC28TnHv8aYO6v6sadDW4nPsm1li4PxziScdGmzz /F1WeCaJ8hFXlJYCvVc4brlREiOiz08BlZob1SOpvsVDrgeYIsvI1CTKsRDQP86u 5OsVDgLim5slcq5rFcYN1eAsDj7KpOw9ozyFg2qRWdACw/TageKu0FNnHr6GtCRG pva3Y4Pp3cmH+vaSiffciypuzy+wKbZdUbEaUp7QIIqHJ5IICbZ8qFw3mLZUtziW scglWAzrlfhsiwwVusPjPbhhZAcdRJtEPcve/dmfpQRFtImt2FeIWabjMa98QmnY HPH/2jZJIr/tGz/PIkT4SLsFRc3fl3LdV5lqLO5GGpvWxw0Xq1ke3TV5J8WCSitt lGnSdkzRqC9sasSOBS5cilUpYeOrq37LOwVLu12kamwxJpIYeBLnur/f6lcrQzSU OZDlpU3u59i3oyFbFauHe2p7wLbDKGxOpCEsv95Now== =5gZK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Selinux mailing list Selinux@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe, send email to Selinux-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxx. To get help, send an email containing "help" to Selinux-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.