On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > mnt_may_suid would also restrict the namespaces where the capabilities > would be honored, but not to only namespaces where the mounter is > already privileged. Of course it does require a user privileged in > another namespace to perform a mount, but that still leaves me feeling a > bit uncomfortable. Right. I think mnt_may_suid should check s_user_ns in addition. > > suid doesn't require quite so strict a check because (jumping ahead to > the patches I haven't sent yet) ids in a user namespace mount of a > normal filesystem are constrained to ids in that namespace. So users > could only exploit this to suid to ids they already control, or if they > managed to somehow bypass other kernel protections they could possibly > gain access to user ns mounts belonging to another user. True. But LSMs labels probably want the same protection as file caps, and the mnt_no_suid approach handles that, too. (Your patches also do this, but maybe we'd want to relax that some day for LSMs that are scoped sensibly.) > > So if we have the s_user_ns check in get_file_caps the mnt_may_suid pass > isn't strictly necessary, but I still think it is useful as a mitigation > to the "leaks" Eric mentions. It _should_ be impossible for a user to > gain access to another user's mount namespace, No, it's very easy with SCM_RIGHTS. We should make sure it's safe. > Andy alludes to the possibility of checking s_user_ns or both s_user_ns > and the mount namespace in mnt_may_suid, and those are certainly > possibilities that would work equally well (though checking both is > probably unnecessary). One thing I came away with from conversing with > Eric though is that he wants to see a clear and explicit check in > get_file_caps, not something implicit from may_mnt_suid. And I can see > his point - there is a concern with file capabilities independent of the > question of whether suid is allowed, and having a separate check does > make that clearer. But we absolutely need MS_NOSUID to block file caps, and it does. Why not just use the existing mechanism with an expanded sense of "nosuid"? --Andy _______________________________________________ Selinux mailing list Selinux@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe, send email to Selinux-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxx. To get help, send an email containing "help" to Selinux-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.
