On 11/18/2009 11:08 AM, Bill Chimiak wrote: > If one is trying to move closer to strict mode for their system, > Does it matter if one uses gnome as the window manager, KDE, > or TWM (realizing that window managers make locking systems > down very difficult)? > > I notice there is the xace project and the online video presentation > of the Plumber's conference was helpful - but that seems gnome-centric, > unless I misinterpet something. > > Thanks in advance. > > The policy I showed at Plumber's had a window manager that was unconfined on X, and I think this pretty much required, as the window manager needs to touch everything on the display to manage it. Given this, if you are building a secure system and you have a choice of WM, choosing a basic bare-bones one would minimize the chance of vulnerability in the WM. Certainly the desktop seems to be moving towards a monolithic all-powerful manager application (e.g. gnome-shell) which may be problematic going forward. One thing you want to avoid with the WM is the ability to run programs from it (such as through a context menu) because those programs then run in the WM's context unless you take some policy action. I note that TWM does allow this. The WM in the demo was compiz, which is a good choice because it doesn't try to do anything except manage windows. Hope this helps. -- Eamon Walsh National Security Agency -- This message was distributed to subscribers of the selinux mailing list. If you no longer wish to subscribe, send mail to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the words "unsubscribe selinux" without quotes as the message.