Re: RFC: changing the "+" in ls -l output to be "." or "+"

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On Saturday 25 October 2008 00:19, Mike Edenfield <kutulu@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Jim Meyering wrote:
> > A desire for compatibility makes "+" look good.
> > "." is appealing for SELinux-only because it's inconspicuous.
>
> Speaking as a fairly new SELinux user/admin, having a "."
> next to every file in my ls output is just as useful or
> non-useful as having a "+" next to them, so does it really
> buy anything?  I end up needing -Z either way.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=472590

The above URL has the history of this discussion.  I requested that there be 
no such notification.  I still believe that there should be nothing used in 
the case of SE Linux (although I could be convinced that the "." is OK if 
files with the context "system_u:object_r:file_t:s0" did not have it).

But it seems that I have lost this debate.  Using "." is better than "+", and 
my request to have none of this in Lenny has been accepted so we have some 
time to work on this before Lenny+1.

> Based on the kind of real-world problems I've had, the most
> useful thing ls could tell me about a file on my SELinux
> system would be that it *should* have a label and *doesn't*,
> something like:
>
> if ( selinux_enabled )
>    if ( label == NULL || label == fs.defaultlabel )
>      use "!"
>    else
>      use " "
> else if ( anything else )
>    use "+"

That sounds quite reasonable.

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