On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Eric Paris <eparis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Vikram Ambrose > <Vikram.Ambrose@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> The SELinux list is not a place for non-SELinux maintainers, like Tresys to >> discuss their policies within themselves. Would it be alright for me and the >> other developers in my company to use the SELinux list to discuss our >> policies? Or the next company that decides to adopt SELinux? RedHat goes as >> far as to using the SELinux list as a communication channel with Tresys. >> Unless there has been some agreement made between the SELinux gatekeepers >> (NSA?) , Tresys and Redhat, I find this a misuse of the mailing list. > > Some misunderstanding. Tresys is the refpolicy maintainer. The > intention of refpolicy is to be a single upstream policy on which > others can build, extend, and make their own changes. Hopefully all > generically useful changes that people make to policy get sent back to > refpolicy. We don't hear tresys discuss their custom policies, they > only talk about the general refpolicy, of which one of their employees > spends a great deal of maintaining for the benefit of us all. > >> As I see it, the current list should be split into 3. > > I'm willing to accept and think 2 lists is a good idea. selinux-list > and selinux-policy-list. Where selinux-list deals with anything that > comes along, be it userspace, kernel, my BLAH is broken, this tool > sucks, etc etc. selinux-policy-list is for policy PATCHES ONLY. > There are some people who really follow both closely, but we do have > enough specialists who care 99% about policy those of us who care only > 1% about policy. Sure I'll subscribe to both, but I'm going to ignore > policy list. I figure if any discussion comes up on policy-list that > needs userspace changes someone will poke me or they will mention it > on the general list. I think moving policy patches and only patches > that need review to go into refpolicy onto its own list can help a > number of people better focus on things. Chris can find those patches > without wading through crap and accept/reject them. I can ignore > them. > > My suggestion would be > > selinux-list @ nsa - general selinux discussion including userspace > and kernel patches > selinux-policy-list @ whoever - PATCHES intended for refpolicy > > -Eric > > -- > This message was distributed to subscribers of the selinux mailing list. > If you no longer wish to subscribe, send mail to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > the words "unsubscribe selinux" without quotes as the message. > Hey, I like the idea, sign me up. I'll just remember to keep the conversation SELinux related, instead of some off topic question. i.g. http://www.engardelinux.org/modules/index/list_archives.cgi?list=selinux&page=0335.html&month=2008-02 usb_hcd_poll_rh_status (rh_timer_func) Don't ask me why I did that..... -- Justin P. Mattock -- This message was distributed to subscribers of the selinux mailing list. If you no longer wish to subscribe, send mail to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the words "unsubscribe selinux" without quotes as the message.