As usual, only the ones that wish to argue for no reason are the ones to
respond, when the culprits stay silent. Nevertheless I didn't expect
miracles to happen. Open Source is after all a socialist concept, and I
haven't earned my stripes yet.
Oh and I almost forget, we also need a selinux-offtopic list for the
likes of Casey Schaufler, Russel Cooker and Vesa-Matti Kari to continue
their meaningless banters.
/V
Vikram Ambrose wrote:
The SE Linux <selinux@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> mailing list is being cluttered
with non selinux related material.
Especially concerning refpolicy. And there is no set fast term used
for filtering such content, and needless to say a waste of bandwidth.
The SELinux list is not a place for non-SELinux maintainers, like
Tresys to discuss their policies within themselves. Would it be
alright for me and the other developers in my company to use the
SELinux list to discuss our policies? Or the next company that decides
to adopt SELinux? RedHat goes as far as to using the SELinux list as a
communication channel with Tresys. Unless there has been some
agreement made between the SELinux gatekeepers (NSA?) , Tresys and
Redhat, I find this a misuse of the mailing list.
In the last 4 months, there have only been a handful of unique threads
concerning SELinux. A few by Stepehen, Eric, and myself. Everything
else is policy related. With a total of 800 odd messages in this time
frame, its quite clear the policy discussion is cluttering the list.
As more and more people begin to adopt SELinux and face the battles of
SELinux integration, the userspace topic will become increasingly
popular.
As I see it, the current list should be split into 3.
1. selinux-kernel
This would be a very low volume list. .Perhaps even with special
clearance to address security holes and concerns.
2. selinux-userspace
This list would deal with userspace tools, wrappers and other non
kernel related material. Whether it be NSA's userspace tools or
support for 3rd party applications being compiled to be selinux-aware
using libselinux. This list is very important, if not the most
important of the three.
3. selinux-policy
This list will deal with policies. A good place for Administrators
and policy developers to discuss the creation, debugging and use of
various policies. This as it stands would have the highest volume.
Nevertheless as suggested by Grift Dominick on #selinux, a forum would
be an even better place to discuss policies. Repository of ideas,
designs and development dedicated to policies. A forum for the
Administrator and Policy Developer.
Without this breakdown, the selinux list would be analogous to people
talking about GNU and C programming on lkml.
Vikram.
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