Yesterday i tried Fedora 9, with the KDE desktop, and SEL enabled by default. I found it easy to use, the KDE desktop being no more restrictive than it is in Ubuntu. I am only required to authenticate as root to do an install such as Firefox. This also is exactly like in Ubuntu 7 or 8. One thing i think is a security weakness: when i authenticate as root, there is a box, "remember this authentication." BUT even weaker, is a box which can be checked which says: "remember this authentication for all future sessions." That is an insecure option. Ubuntu is apparently more secure in not allowing any such option! Windows has a similar option, but this is SEL and shouldnt allow it, imho. -- This message was distributed to subscribers of the selinux mailing list. If you no longer wish to subscribe, send mail to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the words "unsubscribe selinux" without quotes as the message.