Re: [LTP] Se-Linux Updates for LTP

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Quoting Subrata Modak (subrata@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx):
> On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 09:52 -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > Quoting Subrata Modak (subrata@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx):
> > > On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 11:15 -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > > > Quoting Stephen Smalley (sds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx):
> > > > > On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 11:31 +0530, Subrata Modak wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 21:55 +0530, Subrata Modak wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Today i had the opportunity to meet James Morris from Red Hat at FOSS.in
> > > > > > > held at Bangalore, India. After his talks on Se-Linux, we were
> > > > > > > discussing about the Policy Reference support for Se-linux available in
> > > > > > > LTP under the directory:
> > > > > > > ltp/testcases/kernel/security/selinux-testsuite/
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Though i have released RHEL5 EAL4+ Certification Testsuites from IBM, i
> > > > > > > have not seen the testcases under:
> > > > > > > ltp/testcases/kernel/security/selinux-testsuite/
> > > > > > > updated for more than an year. I am not aware exactly about the reason
> > > > > > > for the same. I would like to request you send me any updates that you
> > > > > > > may want to give to LTP for your selinux-testsuite.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Can somebody give me some direction on this ??
> > > > > 
> > > > > What kind of direction are you seeking?
> > > > > 
> > > > > We gave the selinux testsuite to IBM at their request, and they ported
> > > > > it over to the LTP and submitted it there.  Joy Latten was involved in
> > > > > the porting; I've cc'd her above.
> > > 
> > > Well i have not received any selinux testcases updates for reference
> > > policy for the last 3 quarters. What i have received and released is  
> > > EAL4+ Certification Test Suite, which includes
> > > rhel5_ibm_eal4_cert_suite2.tgz. I drilled down in to this and tried to
> > > find whether there are any se-linux testcases included here, which are
> > > apparently present in ltp/testcases/kernel/security/selinux-testsuite/
> > > directory of ltp-full-20073011.tgz (can be downloaded from
> > > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ltp/ltp-full-20071130.tgz?download).
> > > I did not find either of them. They seemed different to me. 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > So the question is who should update the testsuite.  This is not just an
> > > > issue for selinux, but for all the ltp tests.
> > > > 
> > > > One could say it's Joy because she submitted the testcases.  But let me
> > > > warn you that that attitude will definitely decrease the likelyhood of
> > > > testcases being submitted to LTP.  (It'll certainly deter me)
> > > > 
> > > > One could say it should be the selinux community in general, but that
> > > > community is too large for such an answer to be helpful, and it may not
> > > > be fair since they can say "we didn't submit that."
> > > > 
> > > > One could say it should be the reference policy maintainer, because I
> > > > suspect refpolicy updates will be the biggest cause of breakage - but
> > > > that isn't fair to him since again he didn't submit it.
> > > > 
> > > > One might say it should be the ltp community - after the biggest
> > > > advantage of submitting to LTP should be some free maintenance.  However
> > > > it likely doesn't have the needed expertise.
> > > 
> > > Ok. This is i would say as a collective responsibility rather than
> > > somebody?? alone. It is the responsibility of the maintainer (here LTP
> > > and hence myself) to find out the validity of test cases in his/her
> > > project he/she is maintaining, and, then try to contact the author(s) of
> > > that particular test case component to provide updates if even he/she
> > > (Author(s)) has the updates themselves. Now it is upto their (Author(s))
> > > interest to write back if they are interested. Else the Maintainer is
> > > helpless.
> > > I initiated this mail as i found it my responsibility to find out
> > > authors who actually wrote these reference policy test cases for
> > > se-linux, and which are part of LTP in
> > > ltp/testcases/kernel/security/selinux-testsuite/ directory. Now if the
> > > author(s) respond, then i would work hard to integrate the same.
> > > After interaction with James Morris at FOSS.in, Bangalore, India, i came
> > > to know that he is also working on se-linux and he mentioned about the
> > > presence of reference policy support in LTP. I pointed him the release
> > > that i made this year (EAL4+ Certification Test Suite) and also
> > > requested him whether he can update me on the se-linux reference policy
> > > test cases of se-linux available inside Main LTP, he pointed me to write
> > > to se-linux test suite mailing list. Hence this mail. 
> > 
> > Reasonable.  And it looks like the prod was needed.
> 
> So, can somebody now give me some updates for testcases in this
> Directory::
> http://ltp.cvs.sourceforge.net/ltp/ltp/testcases/kernel/security/selinux-testsuite/,

No.  I thought I'd made it clear that I was going to try running them
under FC8 later this week or early next and report back.  No one has
any updates at the moment.  (which is why the prod was needed :)

-serge

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