Let's stick with grub, though similar problems to what I describe could also happen with lilo. Some possibilities are that something went wrong with the grub installation, grub.conf is wrong, or the files to which grub.conf refers have something wrong with them. So I'll give some ideas on how to look for what went wrong. After you've installed grub into the MBR one check that it really is there is to do dd if=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 | grep GRUB You should see 1+0 records in 1+0 records out Binary file (standard input) matches where the last line won't be there if it's not grub that's in the MBR. You should also have a file /boot/grub/grub.conf. The grub.conf file should include lines something like title Red Hat Linux (2.4.20-8) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.20-8 ro root=LABEL=/ initrd /initrd-2.4.20-8.img In this example the kernel is the original insecure one, and "root (hd0,0)" means /boot is in /dev/hda1. After booting, when I look at /boot/vmlinuz.... I am looking at the same file as is referred to by "/vmlinuz..." in grub.conf because /boot is its own partition, and is not just a subdirectory of /. You may do things differently. What do you have in grub.conf, in what partition is /boot, do the files /boot/vmlinuz... and initrd... exist? What is the actual complaint your computer makes when you try to boot without a boot disk? Note that even if vmlinuz... is present, it could be corrupted. If that's what's wrong, and even if it isn't, you'll want to install a more up-to-date kernel, such as kernel-2.4.20-31.9.i686.rpm (assuming your computer has just one cpu of a type such that i686 is appropriate -- Pentium II to 4 for example). In my example I referred to the partition that serves as / by "LABEL=/", but it is actually /dev/hda5, and I can verify /dev/hda5 has the correct label with tune2fs -l /dev/hda5|grep name which shows Filesystem volume name: / If necessary you can do something similar. On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, ipmsmbe wrote: > i have set the boot sequence as following but the system still need the boot > disk to start Linux. Why is this so? > > Boot sequence : HDD0, CD-ROM, FDD, others. > > Please revert. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ipmsmbe" <ipmsmbe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "Discussion of Red Hat Linux 9 (Shrike)" <shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 12:12 PM > Subject: Re: What's wrong with the loader? > > > > THANK U FOR YOUR REPLY. > > > > I HV ONLY ONE HARD DISK AND THE FOLLOWING IS THE BOOT SEQUENCE IN MY BIOS: > > > > 1. HDD0 > > 2. CDROM > > 3. FDD > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Steven J. Yellin" <yellin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: "Discussion of Red Hat Linux 9 (Shrike)" <shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:03 PM > > Subject: Re: What's wrong with the loader? > > > > > > > When you boot, the bios decides whether you boot from disk, floppy, > or > > > CD, and if from disk, which one if there are multiple disks. So go to > > > your bios setup and see if it boots from where you want it to boot. > > > > > > On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, ipmsmbe wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Been having this problem for quite some time. > > > > > > > > RH 9 doesn't seem to boot from the hard disk even when during > > > > installation, it was set to load from the MBR. This happens with both > > > > LILO and GRUB loaders. > > > > > > > > Could anyone pls assist? > > > > > > > > Your assistance is very much appreciated. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Newbie mbe > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Steven Yellin > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Shrike-list mailing list > > > Shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/shrike-list > > > > > > [ Scanned by JARING E-Mail Virus Scanner ( http://www.jaring.my ) ] > > > > > > > > > -- > > Shrike-list mailing list > > Shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/shrike-list > > > > [ Scanned by JARING E-Mail Virus Scanner ( http://www.jaring.my ) ] > > > -- Steven Yellin -- Shrike-list mailing list Shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/shrike-list