someone said, fedora.us is the old site. what is the "official" site for fedora? also, where is the mailing list for fedora? are fedora.us and fedora.redhat.com the same? what about the achives on each site? with core 1 installed and up2date using yum, i see a kernel update, but with apt-get i see no kernel updates. while trying to install the latest kernel-smp using up2date, it hangs and won't finish downloading! i tried apt-get install kernel-smp but the version listed by up2date is not listed by apt-get. i am using the correct channel for fedora core 1. jay -- Shrike-list mailing list Shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/shrike-list