On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Glenn Williams wrote: ... > I am inclined to say that I will not _read_, much less reply to 'bottom > posts.' It makes no sense whatever to me to scroll through 50 lines of > previously posted text, when 8 times out of ten, the subject is the only > thing I need to see before reading the reply. > Sure, there are times (say, 2 out of 10) when I need to scroll down and read > something to pick up the 'meat' of the issue, and for those times I can and > will scroll down and read. > > The rest of the time this is wasted effort. I am physically challenged and > barely have enough strength in my hands to use the keyboard and mouse. Fer > damn sure, I ain't gonna waste it unnecessarily scrolling and reading > something I've already read before. let's be clear about one thing -- no one on this list gives a rat's ass whether or not you *read* bottom-posted submissions or not. what you choose to read or not makes not one whit of difference to anyone else here. what we *do* care about is that you're obviously rude and disrespectful enough to ignore the well-developed and historical basis for e-mail etiquette, and that you might insist on using top-posting in your submissions. that part we *do* care about. most mailing lists, including red hat lists, are not run on a libertarian philosophy. you don't get to do whatever you want -- there's a long history of etiquette, and an overwhelming democracy that has decided what makes sense for most of us. if you don't like it, go elsewhere. start your own mailing lists. go wild, nobody here will mind. what we *will* mind is someone who comes in here with a "me first, i'm the only one who matters" attitude. and you do realize that, with an attitude like yours, you might find the rest of the population here not quite so keen to help you out the next time you get in a jam. that's also one of the features of democracy. but given that you've already made it clear that you refuse to read bottom posts, i guess you'll never read this anyway. so why am i writing it? rday p.s. by the way, at the risk of sounding unsympathetic, the notion of using an alleged physical disability to carp and whine about list etiquette is really pretty unbecoming. telling everyone else how much you disagree with them by playing the victim is a bad way to win friends. p.p.s. and here's another terrific feature of mailing lists and democracy. mr. williams, meet mr. procmail. -- Shrike-list mailing list Shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/shrike-list