This one is wierd -- I don't really see how it can be a shrike issue, but ... I have an all scsi system with 2 scsi controllers. The first scsi controller is an adaptec 29160 with 2 large disks, cdburner, dvd, and internal dds3 tape drive. The second card is an adaptec 2940 with only an external hp (dds2) tape changer as lun 1 and a umax astra 12000S scanner as lun 2. The bus is terminated at the scanner. Under 8.0 (7.3, 7.2 as well, but I don't have them installed any more, though) this worked fine -- I can still boot to the 8.0 partition and it works fine. HOWEVER, under 9/shrike, the combination does not work. Normally I control the external tape changer with mtx. (it is /dev/sg5). Any commands such as mtx -f /dev/sg5 hang and never return. Eventually the scsi bus will reset. Similarly accessing the scanner (/dev/sg6 = /dev/scanner) also fails. Xsane probes the bus and never finds the scanner. If I reboot and remove either the tape or the scanner from the bus, the remaining device works perfectly. (FWIW, I have 2 other external scsi devices, and I can hang them on the bus with the tape drive and all is well -- that scanner doesn't like anything else on the bus under shrike. Under 8.0 it doesn't seem to care). If I reboot under 8.0 (psyche) everything still works perfectly. Does anyone have any experience with this sort of thing? I'm going a bit crazy with this one, as I am using the tape changer to back up a network, and I still need to use the scanner regularly. I could (probably) put another scsi card in this machine, but I'd rather not if at all possible. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, - ba -- William W. Austin waustin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx bill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "Life is just a phase I'm going through..."