got it! I unplugged my web cam and reconfigured sound with sndconfig. No problems. I plugged the web cam back in and it's still fine. There was an 'alias sound-slot-1 audio' in /etc/modules.conf which was messing things up. sndconfig removed the sound-slot-1 alias from /etc/modules.conf ---8<--- alias sound-slot-1 audio post-install sound-slot-1 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || : pre-remove sound-slot-1 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ---8<--- What really confused me was that kudzu wanted to remove my soundcard configuration in the first place! thnx On Mon, 2003-05-05 at 19:02, joe wrote: > Thomas Robinson wrote: > > > BTW here's what dmesg says: > > > > es1371: version v0.32 time 18:00:00 Mar 13 2003 > > es1371: found chip, vendor id 0x1274 device id 0x1371 revision 0x06 > > es1371: found es1371 rev 6 at io 0xef00 irq 5 > > es1371: features: joystick 0x0 > > ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: 0x8384:0x7609 (SigmaTel STAC9721/23) > > usbaudio: dma timed out?? > > es1371: unloading > > usbaudio: dma timed out?? > > > Sounds like the usb audio module is interfering. > > Try "rmmod audio", then unoad/reload es1371 - > > Joe He's just like Capistrano, always ready for a few swallows.