Note, I am resending this, as it didn't seem to show up, probably because I sent it too soon after subscribing to shrike-list. My apologies if it becomes a dupe. Hello everyone, I always run the latest RedHat on my two primary computers, one at work and one at home. These machines have always been very stable. As an example, the uptime of the work machine running RH8 was roughly equal to the number of days between the releases of RedHat 8 and RedHat 9--it was never rebooted. I'm not talking about firewalls here either, these are workstations that get used all day every day for software development. I upgraded both machines to 9 fairly soon after it came out, and have had nothing but problems. These machines are literally crashing with about the frequency one would expect from Windows98. Both machines have experienced a major glitch which appears to be kernel related, specifically with USB devices. Both home and work machines have Happy Hacker 2 keyboards and Microsoft USB Optical mice. The mouse is plugged into the keyboard, keyboard into the computer, and there are no other USB devices. What happens with this "crash" is that all USB devices are effectively shut down. I can plug a PS2 keyboard into the machine and it will work fine, but there is no way to get the USB devices working again, short of a reboot. It may be worth noting that the USB devices continue to have power (as the light in the optical mouse remains active). The crash is somewhat reproducable on each machine. For one reason or another, installing an RPM by double-clicking on it in nautilus seems to cause it to occur about 25% of the time. The second type of crash, which has so far only happened on the work machine, is a full-blown lockup. I was starting the Jakarta Tomcat servlet container, v 4.0.6 (running on Sun JVM 1.4.1_02), and the machine froze. This is not reproducable... I start and stop Tomcat several dozen times per day, and I've only seen it crash once. After this crash occurred, I was able to ping the machine but was not able to remotely connect to it using SSH (which I would normally have been able to do, and verified after rebooting the machine). Finally, when I came in to work this morning I found my machine frozen while running xscreensaver. Ctrl+Alt+Backspace didn't work. I apologize for this, but because I was rather angry I did not take the effort to try and ping or remotely access the machine...I just hit the power. :) I have tried reinstalling, bringing the machines fully up-to-date, etc. The present updates do not appear to correct these problems. Here's the specs on the machines: Work box: Athlon 1100 Asus MB (forget model, but it uses Via KT133 chipset) 768M Crucial ECC memory Adaptec 29160N SCSI controller Happy Hacker 2 USB keyboard Microsoft USB optical mouse (plugged in to keyboard) Seagate 18gig X15 drive (SCSI) Pioneer 12X DVD (SCSI) Yamaha 8/4/24 CD-R/RW (SCSI) Matrox Millennium 2 4MB, PCI Creative Sound Blaster 5.1 Intel Inbusiness 10/100 NIC Home box: Athlon XP 2000+ MSI KT3Ultra2 MB 512M Kingston value ram Non-ECC Adaptec 2930 SCSI controller Happy Hacker 2 USB keyboard Microsoft USB optical mouse (plugged in to keyboard) Seagate 9gig SCSI drive (SCSI) Toshiba DVD ROM (SCSI) MSI IDE CDR NVidia GeForce2 (running NVidia proprietary XFree86 driver) Creative Sound Blaster 5.1 Intel NIC Any help with these issues would be greatly appreciated. I'd be happy to provide any additional upon request. Please understand that these issues are most likely not an anomaly due to some odd hardware configuration on my end--the crashes occur on two very different machines w/good hw. I've been running RH products since Colgate and have never encountered as many problems with a release before. The machines I'm using presently have never had any previous problems running 7.2, 7.3, or 8.0. Best regards --Tod Liebeck -- Tod Liebeck NextApp, Inc.