Marcie Laux wrote:
The truth hurts doesn't it.Message: 13 Subject: Re: Red Hat 9 From: Joe Klemmer <klemmerj@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: psyche-list@xxxxxxxxxx Date: 25 Mar 2003 22:17:54 -0500 Reply-To: psyche-list@xxxxxxxxxx
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 18:29, Gerald Henriksen wrote:
> While I agree some of the decisions Red Hat has made have been > necessary and even good (even if Red Hat has screwed up the > implementation and public relations aspects of at least some of them) > they are also apparently ignoring a lot of their existing and (at > least until now) loyal customers.
This is crap.
> I certainly can't recall messages on any of the Red Hat mailing lists
> or any survey asking for Red Hat to price their Linux product at the
> same price levels Microsoft charges, yet that is exactly what Red Hat
> has done (and in at least 1 case when you extend the price over a 3 or
> 4 year lifetime of a product Red Hat is actually more expensive than
> Microsoft).
More crap.
> The base Red Hat product line (8.0, 9, whatever next) is no longer
> suitable for business or the average home user. You cannot expect a
> company or joe user to upgrade their operating system every year
> (which is now necessary given the 12 month limit on bug/security
> fixes).
Even more crap.
> To get a reasonable period of security fixes you have to move up to
> the enterprise line of products, which starts at a minimum of twice
> the price and has more restrictive licensing terms.
Ditto.
> So your average person at home now has a choice of Windows XP at $300
> or Red Hat Enterprise Workstation at $300 ($60 a year after the first
> year for access to security fixes). Guess what, XP comes with full
> multimedia capabilities including MP3 and DVD, as well as a full range
> of software available for purchase including games, tax software, etc.
> Which would you choose? And by the way, so far at least Microsoft
> still offers free security fixes in the base price.
This is a very long message that is the epitome of FUD. Let's leave
this $#|t out of the redhat lists.
--Well, well, well. There you go, another pseudo system administrator. I have been supporting multiple unix platforms since 1984, and RH since 1995. The issues coming up now should be very relevant to RH. If I had to go to my boss and tell him that our low cost workstations were now going to cost $300 + $60x2 = $420 each every 2 years... the delayed fix for wine will seem like a bump in the road of my career.
Farewell neighbor. Thank you for giving us a safe place for so many
years.
Fred Rodgers - 1928-2003
Ok I agree, this list is for productive help for each other and enough of the whining crap. If you want to whine go to windoze. I for one am tired of reading a bunch of garbage.
Just a sysadmin's thoughts,,,,,,,,,,
Marcie
If you don't want to read this "thread", and you are a real systems administrator, then surely you should be able to make a procmail or mail client filter so you don't have to see them.
Just a sysadmin with 19 years of experience's thoughts,,,,,
Guy
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