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Re: Samba & Nautilus (antonio montagnani) > 9. Linux Software Pointers (John BouAntoun) > 10. Re: What's This?? (Oisin C. Feeley) > 11. Re: Linux Software Pointers (Brent Fox) > 12. Re: Can't make NTP work (Stephen Carville) > 13. Error message. (G. Barker) > 14. Re: Minimum Install (Rocky) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:06:47 -0700 >From: Tommy McNeely <Tommy.McNeely@Sun.COM> >Subject: Re: Redhat's Bind config tool >To: psyche-list@redhat.com >Reply-To: psyche-list@redhat.com > >I agree with the whitespace issue... but you dont need a FQDN in the zone >file if the origin is set correctly?? none of mine have the FQDN.. only >hostnames .. ofcourse after a bad experience with bind-config I use vim as >my "config tool" :) > >Tommy > >--On Saturday, January 18, 2003 03:59:45 PM -0800 Kevin Brouelette ><kevin1a@socal.rr.com> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I haven't seen this on this list since I've been here a week or so, >> I've been using testing redhats bind-config tool and it has caused me a >> nervous >> breakdown until today. When I use it to setup DNS files on a >> fresh installed machine, the zone files look fine yet don't work. >> I've found a few things by trial and error to share to see if others >> have discovered the same. >> >> After using the tool to create a couple of zones: >> >> 1st] /etc/named.conf The tool edits and saves a >> variety of empty lines, white spaces at the trailing end of most of >> the lines in the file, and if I open it with 'vi' in a gui terminal, >> I see RED boxes scattered all over the place [even over letters in >> comments]. >> >> So the first thing I do is clean up all the RED boxes, trailing 'white >> spaces' >> and excessive blank lines. >> >> 2nd] When the tool creates a zonefile, [for example kbtest.com.zone] it >> writes record as follows: >> >> www IN A 123.234.345.456 >> >> >> This will fail. -But- if I change it to: >> >> www.kbtest.com. IN A 123.234.345.456 >> >> along with the above fix to /etc/named.conf and restart named, >> the zones resolve and all is good. >> >> Comments welcome >> >> Kevin B >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Psyche-list mailing list >> Psyche-list@redhat.com >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list > > > >-- >Tommy McNeely -- Tommy.McNeely@Sun.COM >Sun Microsystems - IT Ops - Broomfield Campus Support >Phone: x50888 / 303-464-4888 -- Fax: 720-566-3168 > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >From: Paul Watkins <pwatkins@decssi.com> >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:38:55 -0700 (MST) >Subject: RE: Kylix, PostGreSql, MySql, Java 2, and User Interfaces >To: <psyche-list@redhat.com> >Reply-To: psyche-list@redhat.com > >I've been using mysql on a commercial web site with in excess of >1,000,000 hits per month and had no security issues becuse phpMyAdmin is >not available to end users. > >In my opinion the only one who should use phpMyAdmin is a database >administrator or other authorized administrator. Users have no access to >phpMyAdmin. > > >> Has not phpMyadmin,webmin,linuxconf-web; basically all the web based >> administrative interfaces have tons of security holes? >> >> My basic fear of getting exploited via these interfaces keeps me from >> implementing them. >> >> >>> --Luke >>> --Computer Science Sysadmin, MSU Bozeman >>> --admin(AT)cs.montana.edu 994-3931 >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: psyche-list-admin@redhat.com >>> [mailto:psyche-list-admin@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Paul Watkins >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:41 AM >>> To: psyche-list@redhat.com >>> Subject: Re: Kylix, PostGreSql, MySql, Java 2, and User Interfaces >>> >>> How about phpMyAdmin 2.3.0 -- this is a great interface to MySQL. >>> >>> http://www.phpmyadmin.net/ >>> >>> PRW >>> >>> >>> > I have several database products in mind that I would like to >>> > build. I have seen that MySQL and PostGRESQL are included with Red >>> Hat 8. From what I am reading, neither has a user-friendly >>> interface and therefore someone needs to program an interface for >>> them. I have been looking for information about how to build >>> interfaces for them, but I am not sure I have learned much. Some >>> recommendations are for Java, others for C. In Windows, I used >>> either Access and a little Visual Foxpro or Visual Basic. What >>> recommendations do you have? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > At the bookstore this evening I ran across a book on Kylix. I >>> > just looked it up on the internet and discovered it is a RAD tool >>> for Linux by Boreland. The book came with a copy of Open Kylix. I >>> looked on the Boreland website and it is a version for open source. >>> It has an Evaluation version, but they don't seem to sell it. Can >>> someone tell me if that is a free version by chance, or is it a >>> timeware product that dies if you don't pay for it after a few days? >>> I will probably download it when I get Linux up again and look it >>> over, but in the meantime, I think I got lost somewhere and went >>> around in circles on Boreland's website. What can you folk tell me >>> about it? >>> > >>> > Thank you >>> > >>> > Buck >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Psyche-list mailing list >>> > Psyche-list@redhat.com >>> > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Psyche-list mailing list >>> Psyche-list@redhat.com >>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list >> >> >> >> -- >> Psyche-list mailing list >> Psyche-list@redhat.com >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list > > > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 3 >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:18:19 -0500 (EST) >From: dTd <dandanielle@mindspring.com> >To: psyche-list@redhat.com >Subject: Re: Quake(1) on RH8 >Reply-To: psyche-list@redhat.com > >On 21 Jan 2003, Donald G Wilson Jr wrote: > >> I know its an old game but... has anyone here gotten quake to run on RH >> 8. I've never installed these syle games on Linux and frankly am afraid >> of fessing up my install. I read the how-to, and several sites, but all >> are outdated and leave me wondering if i can/should do it on my sys. >> >> (RH8 w/ AMD XP2100+, GeForce4 mx420, nvidia drivers.) >> >> no rtfm style replys please, though if someone says they did it by the >> how - to thats fine, i was just scared of changing so many files via out >> dated information. >> >> :-) >> >> dw >Quake 1, your best bet if you have the original cd is quakeforge, this is >a complete port of quake1 for linux with 3d excelerated graphics and is >easily installed from sourc, quake2, the best method is to download the >quake2 installer from icculus.org, this is another full linux port which >will install and setup quake2 from the original cd, quake3, with either >the windows or linux cd version you should download the latest linux patch >from >ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com//idstuff/quake3/linux/linuxq3apoint-1.32b.x86.run >and run it, then copy the pack files from the cd or a windows install to >/usr/local/games/quake3/baseq3. Have fun :) > >/dTd >Perl 6 will give you the big knob. - Larry Wall > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 4 >From: "Michael St. Laurent" <mikes@hartwellcorp.com> >To: "'psyche-list@redhat.com'" <psyche-list@redhat.com> >Subject: Can up2date revert to a previous package version? >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:54:24 -0800 >Reply-To: psyche-list@redhat.com > >Is there a way to make up2date revert to an older kernel package? > >-- >Michael St. Laurent >Hartwell Corporation > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 5 >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 20:16:00 +0000 >From: Mark C <redhat-lists@blueyonder.co.uk> >To: psyche-list@redhat.com >Subject: Re: Can up2date revert to a previous package version? >Reply-To: psyche-list@redhat.com > >Michael St. Laurent wrote: >> Is there a way to make up2date revert to an older kernel package? > >yes and no, you could try rpm -ivh kernel-2.4-something.i686.rpm > >or there is an option in up2date, to enable rollback, basically it makes >an rpm of youre old files/program and allows you to reinstall it. > >Check top the options in up2date. > >Mark > > >-- >To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; >to steal from many is research. > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 6 >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:36:03 -0500 >From: Jay Turner <jkt@redhat.com> >To: psyche-list@redhat.com >Subject: Re: Can up2date revert to a previous package version? >Reply-To: psyche-list@redhat.com > >On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 11:54:24AM -0800, Michael St. Laurent wrote: >> Is there a way to make up2date revert to an older kernel package? > >No, but if you installed the kernel using up2date, then it should have done >an "installation" as opposed to an "upgrade" which means that your old >kernel should still be there. Run "rpm -q kernel" to see which kernels are >installed on your system. > >- jkt >-- >--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--* >Jay Turner, QA Manager jkt@redhat.com Red Hat, Inc. > > No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; > a single experiment can prove me wrong. -- Albert Einstein > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 7 >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:18:17 -0700 >From: Guy Fraser <guy@incentre.net> >Organization: J I Reasearch >To: psyche-list@redhat.com >Subject: Re: Yes..., I can destroy your system! >Reply-To: psyche-list@redhat.com > >Hi > >Yes that is correct, but most new users do not know how to use vi or most >alternate console text editors. > >I usualy alias pico to "pico -w" then export EDITOR as pico, because I prefer >it for quick editing. I use vi for bulk editing. Since most new users probably >have not installed pine, what I do probably wouldn't have helped. When I run >visudo after I have made these changes visudo uses 'pico -w' to do the editing >rather than vi. > >NOTE: Pico's "-w" option turns off automatic wraping which can be a pain when >editing config files. > >Using a GUI text editor to copy/modify one of the examples is fairly straight >forward, as I intended my suggestion to be. > >Rui Miguel Seabra wrote: >> On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 19:06, Guy Fraser wrote: >> >>>EXPANDED: >>>When running as root, edit "/etc/sudoers" and grant yourself privledge to >>>certain commands or all commands. Then when running as a regular user you can >>>execute the enabled commands like this : >>>sudo /sbin/ifconfig >> >> >> Enhanced editing: visudo >> That command will edit /etc/sudoers AND check for syntax on exit. Very >> helpful. >> >> Rui >> > > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 8 >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 22:37:09 +0100 >From: antonio montagnani <anto.montagnani@virgilio.it> >To: psyche-list@redhat.com >Subject: Re: Samba & Nautilus >Reply-To: psyche-list@redhat.com > >Iain Buchanan wrote: > >>On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 23:42, antonio montagnani wrote: >> >> >>>If I digit smb: in the command line I get the message: >>> >>>Nautilus can't display smb:/// >>> >>>But if I digit smb://192.168.0.40 I get shares displayed in Nautilus window. >>> >>>Any suggestion to a newbie of Samba??? >>> >>> >>I had a very similar problem, all forms of smb: or smb:/// or whatever >>resulted in a similar error message (whereas the full name or ip address >>worked, as in your example). So I analysed my iptables logs and found >>that I wasn't quite accepting all the correct ports. I opened some more >>and it worked. So check your firewall. >> >> >Tnx Iain. > >I am really a newbie...I should have figured that way, as from other >machines not behind firewall smb: worked. >I have to check which ports are to be opened, but this is another job of >mine. > >Tnx again > >Antonio > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 9 >Subject: Linux Software Pointers >Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 08:32:53 +1100 >From: "John BouAntoun" <John.BouAntoun@rogen.com.au> >To: <psyche-list@redhat.com> >Reply-To: psyche-list@redhat.com > >Hi guys, > >I'm still trying to push Linux acceptance in my office, and have been able to sell my boss on the idea of a free messaging server running inside the copmany VPN. > >This server is for use by the IT team when we are working from home, or even in different parts of the office. > >I'm thinking of getting them to install a RH8 desktop, that acts as this messaging server so I can expose them to the desktop merits of Linux (evolution, mozilla, openoffice e.t.c.). > >So my question is what are some good free (beer and/or speach) messaging servers that I can setup on this linux box? > >I was thinking to use the irc protocol, because it enables easy group conference, but I've been hearing things about jabba (spelling?) and other open messaging protocols. The server product would have reasonably mature and stable (though most mature linux server software tends to be much more stable than the windows equivalent in my experience). > >Any pointer or URLs would be appreciated. > >John > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 10 >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 13:28:12 -0800 (PST) >From: "Oisin C. Feeley" <ofeeley@yahoo.com> >To: Psyche List <psyche-list@redhat.com> >Subject: Re: What's This?? >Reply-To: psyche-list@redhat.com > > > >On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Gregory Malsack wrote: > >>Can anyone tell me what might me happening here and how I can stop it? >> >>Thanks in advance... >>Greg ><snip insanely long log> >Hi Greg, >would you mind not posting to all three lists (seawolf, enigma, psyche) >simultaneously? I noticed you did this with your last question also. >Many people are subscribed to all of them and doing this is close to >spamming the lists. > >Thanks, hope you get an answer to your question. > >Oisin Feeley > > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 11 >Subject: Re: Linux Software Pointers >From: Brent Fox <bfox@redhat.com> >To: psyche-list@redhat.com >Organization: >Date: 22 Jan 2003 16:57:41 -0500 >Reply-To: psyche-list@redhat.com > >On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 16:32, John BouAntoun wrote: >> Hi guys, >> >> I'm still trying to push Linux acceptance in my office, and have been able to sell my boss on the idea of a free messaging server running inside the copmany VPN. >> >> This server is for use by the IT team when we are working from home, or even in different parts of the office. >> >> I'm thinking of getting them to install a RH8 desktop, that acts as this messaging server so I can expose them to the desktop merits of Linux (evolution, mozilla, openoffice e.t.c.). >> >> So my question is what are some good free (beer and/or speach) messaging servers that I can setup on this linux box? >> >> I was thinking to use the irc protocol, because it enables easy group conference, but I've been hearing things about jabba (spelling?) and other open messaging protocols. The server product would have reasonably mature and stable (though most mature linux server software tends to be much more stable than the windows equivalent in my experience). >> >> Any pointer or URLs would be appreciated. >> >> John >> >> > >I don't have a ton of experience with Jabber, but I did set up a server >at home once just for fun. Check out www.jabber.org for more >information. > >Of course, IRC is good too. > >Cheers, > Brent > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 12 >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:09:31 -0800 (PST) >From: Stephen Carville <carville@cpl.net> >To: "psyche-list@redhat.com" <psyche-list@redhat.com> >Subject: Re: Can't make NTP work >Reply-To: psyche-list@redhat.com > >Looks like the server is just not responding to your request. Try: > >tick.ucla.edu >time.berkeley.netdot.net >ntp2.sf-bay.org >ntp.ucsd.edu > >I know these servers work. > >Also post your ntp.conf file. > >I have some notes I made on ntp setup at: > >http://heronforge.net/redhat/node12.html > >On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Neil Bird wrote: > >- >- I've been struggling to make NTP actually set my clock on 8.0 (first >- time I've used it). I've done a whole ream of different things after >- asking for help on comp.protocols.time.ntp, but no joy. >- >- Even simplistically, with the RH-shipped ntp.conf, in the RH date >- config. utility, when I try to tick the 'NTP' box reports that it can't >- get a reply and maybe my firewall needds checking - but I tried it with >- the firewall wide-open for the host I listed (and double checked - no >- logged dropped packets, and ethereal shows NTP UDP stuff coming in OK). >- >- I also get the following (same host) out of ntpdate (but I couldn't >- say for certain what state the ntp.conf was in at the time, so that may >- have affected this test): >- >- >- $ sudo ntpdate -d ntp.cis.strath.ac.uk >- 22 Jan 06:20:29 ntpdate[2320]: ntpdate 4.1.1a@1.791 Sat Aug 31 18:27:31 >- EDT 2002 (1) >- transmit(130.159.196.118) >- transmit(130.159.196.118) >- transmit(130.159.196.118) >- receive(130.159.196.118) >- receive: pkt.org and peer.xmt differ >- transmit(130.159.196.118) >- transmit(130.159.196.118) >- 130.159.196.118: Server dropped: no data >- server 130.159.196.118, port 123 >- stratum 0, precision 0, leap 00, trust 000 >- refid [0.0.0.0], delay 0.00000, dispersion 64.00000 >- transmitted 4, in filter 4 >- reference time: 00000000.00000000 Thu, Feb 7 2036 6:28:16.000 >- originate timestamp: 00000000.00000000 Thu, Feb 7 2036 6:28:16.000 >- transmit timestamp: c1d8b6b0.b6e0f3cb Wed, Jan 22 2003 6:20:32.714 >- filter delay: 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 >- 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 >- filter offset: 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 >- 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 >- delay 0.00000, dispersion 64.00000 >- offset 0.000000 >- >- 22 Jan 06:20:33 ntpdate[2320]: no server suitable for synchronization found >- >- >- Any & all help appreciated! My next course of action is stepping >- through the source ... >- >- > >-- >-- Stephen Carville http://www.heronforge.net/~stephen/gnupgkey.txt >============================================================== >Blessed are those who, in the face of death, think only of the >front sight. >============================================================== > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 13 >From: "G. Barker" <gbarker@paradise.net.nz> >To: RedHat 8 (Psyche) List <psyche-list@redhat.com> >Subject: Error message. >Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:17:03 +1300 >Reply-To: psyche-list@redhat.com > >Hi all. > >As a newbie, I've got a problem in installing a RPM file. I click on the file >in the Konqueror file manager, but it won't install, I get the message; > >Could Not Open Package > >The file "/root/downloads/linux/ocr/Clara" could not be read. Make sure that >you have the proper permissions on it > >I checked the permissions under properties, but I don't see anything amiss! >This used to work OK in Red Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla). > >It does install manually in the Terminal, but none of the RPM files that I've >got will install from the file manager. >-- > >Regards, George >Packet ZL4CW@ZL4GQ.#95.NZL.OC >Sent by KMail - Red Hat 8.0 - Linux > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 14 >Subject: Re: Minimum Install >From: Rocky <rlh-list@nmrg.net> >To: Psyche List <psyche-list@redhat.com> >Organization: >Date: 22 Jan 2003 18:58:08 -0500 >Reply-To: psyche-list@redhat.com > > >--=-hYMBu0N7cCQcj2efUq7P >Content-Type: text/plain >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 23:03, HakanTerzioglu wrote: >> If you select Custom Installation , and when the package selection screen >> appears at he very end of it , there is Minimal installation option , it= > is >> right below Everything option. >> this is true only for Psyche, ( i did not have look at Phoebe) > >Thanks! I had not noticed that before! >--=20 >Rocky <rlh-list at nmrg.net> > >--=-hYMBu0N7cCQcj2efUq7P >Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc >Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > >iD8DBQA+LzAQEpMBJlimui0RAlr5AJ9AZrJ0fk4Be2t4LYzZcmPtdoL4gwCgjaaf >ROOciB1ZX2C0OYlbKZuj9nA= >=2qw4 >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >--=-hYMBu0N7cCQcj2efUq7P-- > > > > > >--__--__-- > >-- >Psyche-list mailing list >Psyche-list@redhat.com >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list > > >End of Psyche-list Digest > -- Ferindo Middleton, Jr. For more information, please refer to my homepage @ http://www.sleekcollar.com __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. 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