I started out with an intel830M chipset which necessitated the loading of an advanced x windows leading to a kernel upgrade 2-4-19 opp18 leading to a defective xmms downloading rpms to fix this broke the installer and package manager leading to an apt install and a synaptic install neither of which work leaving me after nine weeks with a machine that's great for surfing the net,but can't run a GUI install or check dependencies or conflicts and a scanner that remains undetected. If the aim of 8.0 was to entice simpletons like myself with an easy, functional OS, then it was more a trial by fire than a success. My tech support aside from the generous at the psyche- list was four messages telling me that my tickets had expired. Other than fixing my updates, there was, in effect no official support whatsoever. Mabey I'm expecting too much. The next thing is to scrounge around for obscure modules to try and detect my scanner and firewire card. It's not boring, but as much as I passionately hate microsoft, I'm still spending a lot of time just getting simple things to just work. I hope there will come a day where I can say RH, it works! Even Libranet sent me instructions on what module to install to enable my PCMCIA card. I'd really like to see RH triumph as an OS. My point is that I should be enjoying this OS and all I'm doing is jumping through hoops to get it to do basic things that one would think would just work. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Psyche-list mailing list Psyche-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list