My apologies for butting into this list, 99 44/100% of which is far over my head! I have *just* kicked MonkeySoft off my back. I had been running RH 7.2 for most of a year on a second hard drive; this past weekend at an installfest I had the good fortune to find people who could remove the original W98 drive (which now goes to the firing range <grin>) and replace it with one on which RH 8.0 is installed. The first things I want to do to start shifting over are to get Opera and Pan up and running on it. I haven't even found a variety of Pan to try yet; I did try Opera, with very discouraging results. I thought I had installed Opera -- it opened, and handled two or three tabs, only to disappear. That was the shorter, shared version, which I had presumed 8.0 could handle. So I decided to download the static version, uninstall the shared, and ... -- but bogged down. RH 8.0 seems to think I both had and had not installed the shared. I tried to uninstall it; when I got the result of rpm -e, I took it at face value, supposed the app to've somehow opened uninstalled -- which might explain its crashing -- and tried to install with -ivh. NOTE: to get the -ivh command, I hit up arrow till, sure enough, despite the result of -e, I hit one with -Uvh; then I switched the U for i, making no other change, and hit enter. ========================== [root@localhost rhn]# cd /home/btth [root@localhost btth]# ls opera-6.11-20021129.1-static-qt.i386.rpm opera-6.11-20021129.4-shared-qt.i386.rpm [root@localhost btth]# rpm -e opera-6.11-20021129.4-shared-qt.i386.rpm error: package opera-6.11-20021129.4-shared-qt.i386.rpm is not installed [root@localhost btth]# rpm -ivh opera-6.11-20021129.4-shared-qt.i386.rpm Preparing... (########################################### [100%] package opera-6.11-20021129.4 is already installed [root@localhost btth]# =========================== So how do I get my good fast handy browser?? -- RR 'Beartooth' Neuswanger <karhunhammas (at) lserv.com> Double Retiree, Linuxer's Apprentice, Curmudgeon On Line Facta est lux! Deletum est MegaSleazo! This message was created in a MS-free computing environment. -- Psyche-list mailing list Psyche-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list