Logged in as root, I go to "system settings -> security level" and get a nice little thing called "Security Level Configuration" which is neat and which allows me to customize the firewall rules and allow trusted incoming stuff. (Where I am trying to get to is to get telnet working on my two Linux machines, but right now I am still wrestling with the alligators). Only trouble is, when I change it, it claims to have changed it ("Type YES to change this!!") but when I go back and check, it is the same as before. Obviously I am doing something wrong, but what???? I suppose if push comes to shove I can completely reload RH8.0 and do it at installation time, but would rather not do that. (Don't worry about my security -- these are two machines that are only on my own personal LAN and which no one uses but me). Thanks, John -- Psyche-list mailing list Psyche-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list