I hear this 'training' thing over and over again. I don't know why it comes up. OOooooh yeah that right users are idiots. The thing that gets me is cause you SAY its not WINDOWS people FREAK!!!! and forget how to click a mouse on a button and read the screen. I think alot of this 'training' thingy cost on switch is also just FUD. BTW. Look at LINUX right now in the server environment to replace those FRAMES (And use VPN over DSL or T-1) doing this will save your company TONS of money. Desktop thought RH 8.0 does a solid JOB, I don't know who groupwise integrates w/ evolution or if it does. But what you could look at is (Hate to plug another company in RH list) is Suse Exchange server, it emulates exchange functionality (That is if you need the whole sharing of folders and crap) if not Cyrus or Imapd/ Sendmail or Postfix & OpenLDAP or cough cough NDS will do a good job at replacing a E-Mail server such as Groupwise. > In 1995 Linux did not have the desktop software we need. > > We only have to train 3 server admins. We have 850 users in 26 counties > at more than 60 facilities, with the requisite T1's, frame relay, and > 10/100BaseT's to keep them connected, as well as keeping them connected > to our ASP, e-mail (GroupWise), shared drives, etc., etc., ad nausea. :) > > Training users is the highest cost we have by far. > > Charles Johnson > Manager, IS Applications > Phone: 463-6527 > Fax: 463-6503 > Help Desk: 463-6516 > > Remember the heroes of UAL Flight 93 > >>>> klemmerj@webtrek.com Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:42:37 PM >>> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Charles Johnson wrote: > >> It is more than the "masses." We have over 850 users on-line here in >> our company and the re-training costs shifting to a linux desktop are >> very large. > > Side note: Did you know that the cost of training users to switch > from Windows 3.x to Linux in 1995 was the same as to Win95? Did you > also know that the cost to switch from Win9x/2k to Linux is the same as > to WinXP? Most people don't know this even though numerous studies and > some research shows that it's true. I remember telling this to some > people back in '95 and even after reading the studies and reports they > still didn't believe it. OC, they never even tried it either. > > The real cost in training comes with switching the back-end of > things. Server changes have a much higher training cost going from MS > to Linux. > > - -- > "Khaaaaamaaayyyy, Haaaaamaaaayyyy, HAAAAAAAAA!!!!!" > -- Goku, Dragon Ball > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQE93UVlHeWRPx8OIHARAplTAJ91fG984gq+jZVIBsNzuoa1vdByKwCfRCqJ > YfxW3Tz7ic84R25UdS1IQb4= > =4syX > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > -- > Psyche-list mailing list > Psyche-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list > > > > -- > Psyche-list mailing list > Psyche-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list -- Psyche-list mailing list Psyche-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list