RE: Video Card recommendation

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Do ATI (or other vendors) open-source drivers support hardware 3D
acceleration? I thought that only NVidia does this, as some linux games
demand NVidia 3D drivers.

Pavel.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Gilmore [mailto:dennis@dgilmore.net]
> Sent: Tue, November 19, 2002 10:54 AM
> To: psyche-list@redhat.com
> Subject: Re: Video Card recommendation
> 
> 
> I would like to know why you must use drivers provided by the
> manufacter?  From my experience i used to have a tnt2 card i 
> used nvidia
> drivers with and had x problems from time to time. I now use a ati
> radeon 7000 which performs better. and is more stable with  x 
> using the
> drivers included in x which are based off of ati's 
> specifications.  ATI 
> may not release Drivers  but they support there hardware in the open
> source arena in a way nvidia  never will.  and that is letting people
> know how there hardware works and allowing the distributions 
> to release
> a product that will perform properly out of the box.
> 
> Isn't it better to know how the code will interact with the kernel
> rather than applying unknown code to the kernel with unknown 
> problems. 
> I have seen in magazines here so called experts saying that ATI should
> be avoided as they do not support linux.  To me it seems that they are
> supporting linux  much more than what nvidia does.  Its a known fact
> that microsoft sees nvidias code for there drivers  they know what to
> expect from that code.  Nvidia does not show that curtesy to the open
> source movement.
> 
> 
> Dennis
> 
> On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 08:08, Jorge Boscán Etura wrote:
> > 4 Linux; use Nvidia Geforce4 or Matrox Parhelia ATI does not produce
> > drivers 4 Linux as far as i know
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > El lun, 18-11-2002 a las 17:18, Keith Winston escribió:
> > > On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 14:37, Alejandro González Hernández 
> - Imoq wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 08:29, Tom Georgoulias wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > An ATI Radeon 7500 is a good card that meets your 
> criteria.  It has 
> > > > > hardware acceleration under xfree86, is supported by 
> RHL right out of 
> > > > > the box, and doesn't require vendor provided drivers 
> to get good 3D 
> > > > > performance (even though you only want 2D).
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > What about the ATI Radeon 8500? I just saw one with my 
> local dealer,
> > > > that is pledging for being bought :D
> > > > 
> > > > Does this card have RHL support?
> > > 
> > > The Radeon 8500 for the PC is one of the very few cards 
> that ATI has
> > > written Linux drivers for.  You can download them at the 
> ATI web site. 
> > > I haven't heard if they work well or not.
> > > 
> > > If you select ATI Radeon 8500 in the Red Hat display 
> settings applet,
> > > you get the same driver as the 7500 (radeon).  Again, I don't know
> > > anyone who has one of these so I can't comment on how 
> well it works.
> > > 
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Keith
> > > -- 
> > > LPIC-2, MCSE, N+
> > > We drive on this highway of fire
> > > Got spam? Get spastic http://spastic.sourceforge.net
> > -- 
> > Jorge Boscán Etura <joretur@uft.edu.ve>
> > Universidad Fermín Toro
> -- 
> Dennis Gilmore <dennis@dgilmore.net>
> 



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