Are you ready for this. The reason redhat-config-users would not work for me is that it only works if you use shadow passwds. No man page; no explanation. I have wasted maybe 5 hours on this. Would it have bothered someone to document this. My reaction is not printable. Does anyone have it working without shadow passwds? Please let me know. -- ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University 715 Stadium Dr. San Antonio, TX 78212-7200 telephone: (210)-999-7484 email:akonstam@trinity.edu