On 11 Jun 2003, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >MAH> All modern hardware detects video ram properly. Those using >MAH> ancient 10 year old cards that have broken detection can hand >MAH> edit the config file to work around the hardware or driver bugs >MAH> IMHO[...] > >I wasn't aware that a TNT2 was a ten year old card. I still have, >what, 50 of these in production, and no version of Red Hat can >properly detect the 16MB of RAM the cards have. If left to >autodetection, X will crash the machine hard. (Even the installer >crashes unless I provide the --videoram option to xconfig in my >kickstart file.) The --videoram option should be kept IMHO, but the GUI can do without it. Cluttering up the GUI with options useless to 99.9% of all hardware out there isn't a good idea, especially when users see "oooo, videoram option, I better set that to 64Mb as my card has 64Mb of RAM on it" and then users end up CREATING problems which then end up bug reports in our bugzilla or tech support calls. TNT2 is ancient hardware. If the videoram isn't detected properly, then perhaps Nvidia can provide the information which can be used to fix it. I've got old old riva docs somewhere, but dunno if it is TNT or TNT2. I can talk to Nvidia to try and find out info though if need be. If we cater to every broken card out there via the GUI, then our GUI is a complex tool which confuses the majority of users out there, with per card options like video ram timing/size, fifo controls, and tonnes of other stuff. I consider all of these special hack options to be "Windows registry / regedit" types of things, and the equivalent of edit the registry in Linux, WRT to XFree86, is "man <driver> ; emacs /etc/X11/XF86Config". The only way that I'd consider them viable in the GUI, is if a special option had to be invoked from the commandline such as "--expert", and even then it is possibly still a tech support hassle. -- Mike A. Harris _______________________________________________ xfree86-list mailing list xfree86-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/xfree86-list IRC: #xfree86 on irc.redhat.com
