And on the 4th day: ### RSNAPSHOT DAILY ### fsck.reiser4 /dev/md125 mount: mount /dev/md125 on /mnt/backup failed: Cannot allocate memory Backup failure umount: /mnt/backup: not mounted krshina3 ~ # cat /proc/meminfo MemTotal: 7867900 kB MemFree: 1553044 kB MemAvailable: 4853752 kB Buffers: 0 kB Cached: 2975880 kB SwapCached: 4944 kB Active: 3780968 kB Inactive: 2003640 kB Active(anon): 2336740 kB Inactive(anon): 498120 kB Active(file): 1444228 kB Inactive(file): 1505520 kB Unevictable: 0 kB Mlocked: 0 kB SwapTotal: 594300 kB SwapFree: 180008 kB Dirty: 3064 kB Writeback: 0 kB AnonPages: 2804424 kB Mapped: 180772 kB Shmem: 26132 kB Slab: 427632 kB SReclaimable: 392984 kB SUnreclaim: 34648 kB KernelStack: 7536 kB PageTables: 38328 kB NFS_Unstable: 0 kB Bounce: 0 kB WritebackTmp: 0 kB CommitLimit: 4528248 kB Committed_AS: 5352472 kB VmallocTotal: 34359738367 kB VmallocUsed: 352244 kB VmallocChunk: 34359293283 kB HugePages_Total: 0 HugePages_Free: 0 HugePages_Rsvd: 0 HugePages_Surp: 0 Hugepagesize: 2048 kB DirectMap4k: 12224 kB DirectMap2M: 8056832 kB Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.958316] reiser4: md125: found disk format 4.0.0. Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.958998] mount: page allocation failure: order:4, mode:0x2040d0 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959000] CPU: 2 PID: 7078 Comm: mount Not tainted 3.16.5-gentoo #1 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959001] Hardware name: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. To be filled by O.E.M./B75-D3V, BIOS F5 07/04/2012 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959003] 0000000000000006 ffffffff8152bdfb 0000000000000001 ffffffff810b0bc3 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959005] ffffffff81818df8 0000000000000000 00000002fffffff0 0000000000000010 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959006] ffff8801007b27a0 0000000000000000 0000000000000010 0000204081818240 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959008] Call Trace: Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959011] [<ffffffff8152bdfb>] ? dump_stack+0x41/0x51 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959014] [<ffffffff810b0bc3>] ? warn_alloc_failed+0x10c/0x120 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959016] [<ffffffff810b2b66>] ? __alloc_pages_nodemask+0x581/0x69d Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959019] [<ffffffff810db5f4>] ? cache_alloc_refill+0x261/0x48c Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959022] [<ffffffff8113eefd>] ? reiser4_mount+0xc/0xc Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959024] [<ffffffff810db35f>] ? kmem_cache_alloc+0x6d/0xa1 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959026] [<ffffffff8112bf58>] ? znodes_tree_init+0xb9/0xe6 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959028] [<ffffffff811323ee>] ? reiser4_init_tree+0x3f/0xb2 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959031] [<ffffffff8115fb05>] ? init_format_format40+0x357/0x4e4 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959033] [<ffffffff81080f74>] ? wake_up_bit+0xc/0x1b Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959035] [<ffffffff8113efc8>] ? fill_super+0xcb/0x1ad Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959037] [<ffffffff810e142e>] ? mount_bdev+0x133/0x186 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959039] [<ffffffff810e15ed>] ? mount_fs+0xc/0x9e Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959041] [<ffffffff810f55f2>] ? vfs_kern_mount+0x5e/0xef Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959042] [<ffffffff810f71c1>] ? do_mount+0x80b/0x904 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959044] [<ffffffff810f74d5>] ? SyS_mount+0x7e/0xb7 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959046] [<ffffffff81533612>] ? system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959047] Mem-Info: Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959048] DMA per-cpu: Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959049] CPU 0: hi: 0, btch: 1 usd: 0 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959050] CPU 1: hi: 0, btch: 1 usd: 0 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959051] CPU 2: hi: 0, btch: 1 usd: 0 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959052] CPU 3: hi: 0, btch: 1 usd: 0 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959052] DMA32 per-cpu: Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959053] CPU 0: hi: 186, btch: 31 usd: 0 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959054] CPU 1: hi: 186, btch: 31 usd: 0 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959055] CPU 2: hi: 186, btch: 31 usd: 0 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959056] CPU 3: hi: 186, btch: 31 usd: 0 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959057] Normal per-cpu: Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959057] CPU 0: hi: 186, btch: 31 usd: 0 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959058] CPU 1: hi: 186, btch: 31 usd: 0 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959059] CPU 2: hi: 186, btch: 31 usd: 0 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959060] CPU 3: hi: 186, btch: 31 usd: 0 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959062] active_anon:593069 inactive_anon:120226 isolated_anon:0 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959062] active_file:503137 inactive_file:503029 isolated_file:0 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959062] unevictable:0 dirty:333 writeback:0 unstable:0 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959062] free:104532 slab_reclaimable:109978 slab_unreclaimable:8402 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959062] mapped:51579 shmem:5928 pagetables:9488 bounce:0 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959062] free_cma:0 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959068] DMA free:15900kB min:20kB low:24kB high:28kB active_anon:0kB inactive_anon:0kB active_file:0kB inactive_file:0kB unevictable:0kB isolated(anon):0kB isolated(file):0kB present:15984kB managed:15900kB mlocked:0kB dirty:0kB writeback:0kB mapped:0kB shmem:0kB slab_reclaimable:0kB slab_unreclaimable:0kB kernel_stack:0kB pagetables:0kB unstable:0kB bounce:0kB free_cma:0kB writeback_tmp:0kB pages_scanned:0 all_unreclaimable? yes Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959069] lowmem_reserve[]: 0 2952 7667 7667 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959074] DMA32 free:168028kB min:4308kB low:5384kB high:6460kB active_anon:837216kB inactive_anon:214776kB active_file:790440kB inactive_file:790440kB unevictable:0kB isolated(anon):0kB isolated(file):0kB present:3098560kB managed:3023876kB mlocked:0kB dirty:316kB writeback:0kB mapped:78860kB shmem:8760kB slab_reclaimable:171284kB slab_unreclaimable:11888kB kernel_stack:2240kB pagetables:16348kB unstable:0kB bounce:0kB free_cma:0kB writeback_tmp:0kB pages_scanned:0 all_unreclaimable? no Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959075] lowmem_reserve[]: 0 0 4714 4714 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959079] Normal free:234200kB min:6880kB low:8600kB high:10320kB active_anon:1535060kB inactive_anon:266128kB active_file:1222108kB inactive_file:1221676kB unevictable:0kB isolated(anon):0kB isolated(file):0kB present:4954112kB managed:4828124kB mlocked:0kB dirty:1016kB writeback:0kB mapped:127456kB shmem:14952kB slab_reclaimable:268628kB slab_unreclaimable:21720kB kernel_stack:4976kB pagetables:21604kB unstable:0kB bounce:0kB free_cma:0kB writeback_tmp:0kB pages_scanned:0 all_unreclaimable? no Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959080] lowmem_reserve[]: 0 0 0 0 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959081] DMA: 1*4kB (U) 1*8kB (U) 1*16kB (U) 0*32kB 2*64kB (U) 1*128kB (U) 1*256kB (U) 0*512kB 1*1024kB (U) 1*2048kB (R) 3*4096kB (M) = 15900kB Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959088] DMA32: 36545*4kB (UEM) 2543*8kB (UEM) 70*16kB (UMR) 0*32kB 0*64kB 1*128kB (R) 0*256kB 1*512kB (R) 0*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 168284kB Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959093] Normal: 50408*4kB (UEM) 3913*8kB (UEM) 36*16kB (UMR) 0*32kB 1*64kB (R) 1*128kB (R) 1*256kB (R) 1*512kB (R) 0*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 234472kB Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959099] Node 0 hugepages_total=0 hugepages_free=0 hugepages_surp=0 hugepages_size=2048kB Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959100] 1013453 total pagecache pages Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959101] 1228 pages in swap cache Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959102] Swap cache stats: add 133257, delete 132029, find 57308/68141 Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959103] Free swap = 184632kB Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959103] Total swap = 594300kB Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959104] 2017164 pages RAM Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959105] 0 pages HighMem/MovableOnly Dec 7 03:30:01 krshina3 kernel: [281555.959106] 31497 pages reserved On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Dušan Čolić <dusanc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Edward Shishkin > <edward.shishkin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On 12/01/2014 12:53 AM, Dušan Čolić wrote: >> >> >> On Dec 1, 2014 12:47 AM, "Edward Shishkin" <edward.shishkin@xxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 12/01/2014 12:04 AM, Dušan Čolić wrote: >>>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Dušan Čolić <dusanc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> As I had no time to make a full backup I went back to 3.10 kernel and >>>>> had no >>>>> problem since. >>>>> >>>>> Could this issue be connected with those firefox cache files that were >>>>> bad >>>>> (see other mail thread) so I deleted them but for some reason they >>>>> continued >>>>> making problems or problem wasn't really solved by deletion? I ask this >>>>> as >>>>> after long time of stable r4 I got 2 problems in same week so they're >>>>> probably related. >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 14, 2014 8:58 PM, "Edward Shishkin" <edward.shishkin@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11/05/2014 12:04 PM, Dušan Čolić wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 5, 2014 12:48 AM, "Edward Shishkin" <edward.shishkin@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/04/2014 02:16 PM, Dušan Čolić wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Did a fsck of source partition. >>>>>>>> Btw. why is there a reason this corruption appeared when I started >>>>>>>> using 3.16.2 instead 3.10? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would also suspect this failed mount. >>>>>>> It could have fatal consequences for the system, and, in particular >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> your ''/". >>>>>>> >>>>>> Failed mount happened on the partition that I was copying >>>>>> to,/mnt/backup, >>>>>> and it fscked ok. >>>>>> / was partition I was copying from and it had errors. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Dušan, >>>>>> >>>>>> So, how is your / ? >>>> >>>> So I was feeling brave so I put 3.16.2 back 4 days ago and I got this: >>>> >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.436017] ------------[ cut >>>> here ]------------ >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.436320] kernel BUG at >>>> fs/reiser4/plugin/item/ctail.c:669! >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.436652] invalid opcode: 0000 >>>> [#1] SMP >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.436899] CPU: 3 PID: 30235 >>>> Comm: rsync Not tainted 3.16.5-gentoo #2 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.437275] Hardware name: >>>> Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. To be filled by O.E.M./B75-D3V, BIOS F5 >>>> 07/04/2012 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.437834] task: >>>> ffff8801333d4010 ti: ffff880118218000 task.ti: ffff880118218000 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.438264] RIP: >>>> 0010:[<ffffffff8115aaf4>] [<ffffffff8115aaf4>] >>>> do_readpage_ctail+0x2c5/0x3c4 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.438768] RSP: >>>> 0018:ffff88011821baa8 EFLAGS: 00010246 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.439073] RAX: 0000000000000000 >>>> RBX: ffff88011821bb78 RCX: 000000000002f35d >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.439484] RDX: 000000000000002f >>>> RSI: 0000000000000000 RDI: ffff8800b953b000 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.439894] RBP: ffff880169d231a0 >>>> R08: 0000000000000000 R09: 0000000000000000 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.440304] R10: ffffffff8114eb84 >>>> R11: 0000000000012368 R12: 0000000000000002 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.440713] R13: 0000000000001000 >>>> R14: ffffea00052f5158 R15: 0000000000000000 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.441124] FS: >>>> 00007f3d4d434700(0000) GS:ffff88022e380000(0000) >>>> knlGS:0000000000000000 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.441589] CS: 0010 DS: 0000 >>>> ES: 0000 CR0: 0000000080050033 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.441918] CR2: 0000000000980000 >>>> CR3: 00000001a0c03000 CR4: 00000000001427e0 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.442327] Stack: >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.442443] 0000000000000000 >>>> ffff88011821bb78 0000000000000000 ffff880169d231a0 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.442890] 0000000000000000 >>>> ffffea00052f5158 0000000000000000 ffffffff8115ad7b >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.443336] 00000000000aa1a1 >>>> ffff88011821bca0 ffffea00052f5158 ffff880169d232e0 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.443784] Call Trace: >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.443926] [<ffffffff8115ad7b>] >>>> ? ctail_readpages_filler+0x188/0x1c9 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.444302] [<ffffffff8115abf3>] >>>> ? do_readpage_ctail+0x3c4/0x3c4 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.444655] [<ffffffff810b5528>] >>>> ? read_cache_pages+0x91/0xfc >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.444990] [<ffffffff8115b17c>] >>>> ? readpages_ctail+0x2c8/0x2e5 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.445332] [<ffffffff81151e72>] >>>> ? readpages_cryptcompress+0x39/0x5f >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.445704] [<ffffffff810b56c9>] >>>> ? __do_page_cache_readahead+0x136/0x1d0 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.446094] [<ffffffff810b5958>] >>>> ? ondemand_readahead+0x1f5/0x203 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.446450] [<ffffffff810ae761>] >>>> ? generic_file_read_iter+0x191/0x539 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.446827] [<ffffffff810e9256>] >>>> ? path_openat+0x24b/0x5ce >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.447147] [<ffffffff810de1e6>] >>>> ? new_sync_read+0x6b/0x8f >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.447469] [<ffffffff81151f07>] >>>> ? read_cryptcompress+0x6f/0x97 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.447815] [<ffffffff8114d4c0>] >>>> ? reiser4_read_dispatch+0xc7/0x11e >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.448181] [<ffffffff810dedc9>] >>>> ? vfs_read+0x84/0x13e >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.448483] [<ffffffff810df25c>] >>>> ? SyS_read+0x41/0x84 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.448780] [<ffffffff815346d2>] >>>> ? system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.449135] Code: 01 00 00 e9 00 >>>> ff ff ff 8b 43 58 41 0f b7 4d 04 48 8d 04 48 48 89 54 c3 28 e9 ea fe >>>> ff ff 44 8b a3 88 00 00 00 41 83 fc 02 75 02 <0f> 0b 0f 87 87 00 00 00 >>>> 41 83 fc 01 0f 85 de 00 00 00 49 8b 56 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.450567] RIP >>>> [<ffffffff8115aaf4>] do_readpage_ctail+0x2c5/0x3c4 >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.450934] RSP <ffff88011821baa8> >>>> Nov 30 03:30:36 krshina3 kernel: [293446.562843] ---[ end trace >>>> 45473ce04b35219f ]--- >>>> >>>> Looks like same error like last time I used 3.16. Kernel 3.10 lasted >>>> with 20 days uptime without problems this month and 3.16 had this oops >>>> after 3 days. >>> >>> >>> >>> Unfortunately, there is no any ideas... >>> I can port reiser4-for-3.10 stuff to 3.16. Will you test this port? >>> >> >> Ofcourse! >> > Funny thing is that again only 2 twigs were damaged.. > Now I'm going to use R4-from3.11-ported-to3.16.patch and report on the results. > > Results from fsck --build-fs: > > FSCK: node.c: 108: repair_node_items_check: Node (4078203), items (60) and (61): > Wrong order of keys. > FSCK: filter.c: 407: repair_filter_update_traverse: Node (4078203): the node is > unrecoverable. Pointed from the node (655473), item (14), unit (0). Removed. > FSCK: node.c: 108: repair_node_items_check: Node (4078899), items (6) and (7): > Wrong order of keys. > FSCK: filter.c: 407: repair_filter_update_traverse: Node (4078899): the node is > unrecoverable. Pointed from the node (655473), item (14), unit (0). Removed. > FSCK: node.c: 108: repair_node_items_check: Node (4079383), items (0) and (1): > Wrong order of keys. > FSCK: node.c: 108: repair_node_items_check: Node (4079488), items (0) and (1): > Wrong order of keys. > FSCK: node.c: 108: repair_node_items_check: Node (4079546), items (0) and (1): > Wrong order of keys. > FSCK: node.c: 108: repair_node_items_check: Node (4080447), items (0) and (1): > Wrong order of keys. > FSCK: node.c: 108: repair_node_items_check: Node (4080571), items (0) and (1): > Wrong order of keys. > FSCK: node.c: 108: repair_node_items_check: Node (4081137), items (1) and (2): > Wrong order of keys. > FSCK: node.c: 108: repair_node_items_check: Node (4090871), items (0) and (1): > Wrong order of keys. > FSCK: node.c: 108: repair_node_items_check: Node (4091337), items (0) and (1): > Wrong order of keys. > FSCK: node.c: 108: repair_node_items_check: Node (4091990), items (0) and (1): > Wrong order of keys. > FSCK: node.c: 108: repair_node_items_check: Node (4092423), items (1) and (2): > Wrong order of keys. > FSCK: node.c: 108: repair_node_items_check: Node (4093016), items (0) and (1): > Wrong order of keys. > FSCK: node.c: 108: repair_node_items_check: Node (4093690), items (27) and (28): > Wrong order of keys. > FSCK: node.c: 108: repair_node_items_check: Node (4094525), items (0) and (1): > Wrong order of keys. > FSCK: node.c: 108: repair_node_items_check: Node (4096175), items (0) and (1): > Wrong order of keys. > FSCK: node.c: 108: repair_node_items_check: Node (4099659), items (12) and (13): > Wrong order of keys. > FSCK: node.c: 108: repair_node_items_check: Node (4099663), items (21) and (22): > Wrong order of keys. > FSCK: node.c: 108: repair_node_items_check: Node (4113492), items (0) and (1): > Wrong order of keys. > > > > >> >> >> OK, I'll try to port it ASAP, >> for now fsck your / .. . >> >> Thanks, >> Edward. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe reiserfs-devel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html