IME it may be a "real pain" to sudo view every log, but for any time you need accountability, you should either sudo view all logs, or change who owns log files (IE create a log group and give group read access to them). Once you switch to root there's no "reliable" logging of whats going on. Allowing sudo su - (implied root) is a bad idea, imo. Rob Marti ________________________________________ From: redhat-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [redhat-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of mark [m.roth2006@xxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 13:27 To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list Subject: Re: SUDO Hike wrote: > Why? > > If the user knows the root password, there is no need. Ok, let me explain further. We're not talking home systems, we're talking corporate. And no, *not* everyone knows the root password. In fact, using sudo su - means they do not have to know it. > > If sudo is cofigured correctly, there is no need to "su - root" since > the user can already run the needed commands. That depends. Some users - presumably admins - can be configured to allowed to run only certain commands. Others may need less limited use, and it can be a lot easier if they can get to root; for example, when I'm going to look at logs, and only root can read them, or even look in some directories under /var/log, it's a *real* pain to sudo view every single log. > > "man sodu" should explain how to configure sudo and the locatio of the > configuration file. > > Did you stop to think that you might not be permitted to do this with > sudo or that the "sudo su - root" may need to be defined in the > configuatio file or that the entire su command mat need to be quoted, > etc. So that sudo would understsnd? The original poster did say they thought they'd configured it correctly, implying - this may not be the case - that they did have access to do this. mark > > On Jun 22, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Matias Nicolas <matiasnicolas@xxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > >> >> I know that sudo is for running commands with root privileges but this >> idea is about typing "sudo su -" and use one's password and not root's. >> >> >> >> That's all... >> >>> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:14:41 -0500 >>> From: m.roth2006@xxxxxxx >>> To: redhat-list@xxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: Re: SUDO >>> >>> Hike wrote: >>>> If you have the root password, try the following. >>>> >>>> $ su - root >>>> >>>> When prompted, enter the root password. >>>> >>>> sudo is to permit regular users to run priviledged commands. What you >>>> are trying td is overly complex and redundant. >>>> >>> Not necessarily. A lot of places want more security, and locking down >>> root. >>> >>> mark >>> >>> -- >>> redhat-list mailing list >>> unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Show them the way! Add maps and directions to your party invites. >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/events.aspx-- >> redhat-list mailing list >> unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list