Ok, from what I found on yet another website, my ACL is now: access to attrs=userPassword by self write by * auth access to * by * read This works, and lets users change their passwords... EXCEPT that on the ldap server itself, where it still wants the old password. I've tried this, and a coworker's tried, and we both, as users, have the same thing happening. This was why I added that shadowLastChange, which didn't seem to help. Any suggestions? mark, *extremely frustrated" -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list