I have seen LONG boot times with boxes running sendmail not setup right.. it just times out.. and since it boots fine with the nic down I could see where the system skips a lot of checks since the nic is down and it cant query network info. This dosent explain the error " killing the services " ok.. what run level does your dell boot into ? cat /etc/inittab mine boots to 5 # Run runlevel 5 id:5:initdefault: I could be wrong but i think swap is brought up in /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit now that you know the runlevel.. look in your /etc/rc5.d look for the script between your network start up and sendmail (look for scripts that start with S ) example mine S10network S80sendmail try disabling sendmail from startup (mv S80sendmail K80sendmail ) Aslo would you post all your S scripts in your runlevel ? And like Ray Van Dolson asked anything in the messages file ? (no im not talking down to you about the run levels and startup scripts just trying to make this post easy for newbies) -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list