Re: Protect sendmail from DoS

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On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 08:08:13PM -0500, Devon Harding wrote:
> Is there some way of using something like IPTABLES to block if it sees a
> certain amount of connections from a particualar IP? I know Ciphertrust
> Ironmail does this.

The one you can't easily protect yourself from happens if somebody does
a wide-area spam using one of your domain names.  The bounces come back
from a large amount of perfectly legitimate servers that you can't (and
shouldn't) block.  Those bouncers were victims of the spams, as are you.

I've seen tens of thousands of bounce messages come in a very short
period of time, taking out both of my mail servers.  It wasn't a pretty
sight to deal with at 1am.

As somebody else said, if somebody wants you dead, you'll be dead unless
you have deep pockets to protect yourself from this.

        .../Ed

> 
> On 11/1/05, Steven Jones <Steven.Jones@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Sendmail has some protection in terms of load limiting, these are a bit
> > high so you can set them lower so the server recovers sooner. This will
> > save your server but in effect it allows DoS sooner.
> >
> > Possibly you do not understand what a DoS is. DoS is a function of your
> > attacker overloading your network or server's capacity to handle network
> > traffic sent at it.
> >
> > These days unless you are a big organisation with huge pipes, big
> > multiple servers and deep pockets, and someone wants you dead, your
> > dead.
> >
> > If someone wants to take your server out they can, it is simply a matter
> > of logistics, they control 30 or 300 or 3000 or 30000 spam drones of
> > hacked broadband connections and the volume these generate is amazing.
> >
> > I was Dos'd a while back, I was sent 5+gig of volume in 2~3 minutes, my
> > 512k cable modem could not cope so in effect the DoS happened at the
> > ISP's end of my pipe, totally outside of my control.
> >
> > Modern machines, even desktop ones should be able to handle a lot of
> > mail, if you are having issues with DoS's then maybe it is something
> > else.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Thing
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Devon Harding [mailto:devonharding@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2005 10:43 a.m.
> > To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
> > Subject: Protect sendmail from DoS
> >
> > How can I protect my sendmail server against DoS attacks?

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Mounds View, MN, USA
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