On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 09:33:52PM -0500, Ed Wilts wrote: > We don't need no stinkin' blogis when the redhat lists are available... > > Any other list members hiding out at the Summit that want to meet up? > > I'm here on Day -1 of the Summit. Day 1 started with a decent breakfast (once people found out where breakfast was - they forgot to mention that in the registration paperwork and a bunch of people were hunting around). 3 keynotes started the day. Matthew Szulik opened it up, and then left the state after about 15 minutes (he was scheduled for 30). We were wondering what was going on when a choir (the Joyful Choir from New Orleans) walked on, followed by Szulik in the choir robe and started leading them in song. He doesn't have a bad voice but I don't think he should quit his day job. :-) I'm hoping that somebody recorded that and will put it on the web. Szulik stated that there were 698 attendees (I heard later the number was up to 740). Informally, I heard some vendors paid for some of their key clients to go but I believe that is common for some conferences like this. Martin Fink from HP is responsible for both Linux and Nonstop (aka Tandem). That's no coincidence and he hinted at the Tandem systems running Linux in the future. He's already seeing a lot of applications running on them as a pair - e.g. Sabre (which Travelocity uses) runs RHEL and MySQL on HP servers on the front end (all of your searches) and then the transaction is processed on a Tandem Nonstop system on the back end. He noted that over $9 trillion in daily transactions (not all Sabre obviously) are processed using Linux in some way or another. The 3rd keynote (the visionary keynote) was John Buckman from Magnatune. He was comparing the open source models to the music models. He made me really glad I'm in the computer industry (quote of the day: "if you think that SCO's lawyers are bastards, you've never dealt with the RIAA"). I attended a very packed SELinux presentation - standing room only for probably 150+. The keynotes ended early so the presenter started the session early which sucked - I got there 10 minutes early and he was already into his presentation. This was a great overview especially for the RHEL crowd who just saw SELinux with RHEL 4 (it's been in Fedora since Core 2). He pointed us to some good documentation (like the Apache/SELinux docs) on the Fedora web site and was already talking about changes coming in RHEL 4 Update 2. I was planning on attending the SELinux technical session but it didn't start well and I left to attend the cluster technical overview instead. I heard from somebody else that the session ended up being a good one. The cluster technical session was another standing room only one - about 100 people were in this smaller room. It was rapid-fire and unless you had some cluster knowledge already (especially VMS clusters), it probably flew overhead. I then hit the Cluster Administrative Overview which was attended by about 80 people. It was a bit slower paced but still hit all the good highlights. Matt O'Keefe (Sistina's founder) was up next talking about open source storage management. He covered differences between RHEL 3 and 4 (ext3) as well as the cluster file system and cluster logical volume manager. He also talked about the changes in snapshots (read-only in lvm1 but read-write in lvm2). By now my brain was getting fried but I had to concentrate on Stephen Tweedie's Scottish accent. This was an interesting session on ext3 futures not only because I was really interested about this topic but because I first heard Stephen Tweedie talk probably 10+ years ago at a Decus conference when he was with Digital. I keep running across Red Hatters who have VMS and/or DEC work experience (thank God Red Hat ended up with the techies and not the marketing department!). I really need to get my hands on Tweedie's slides since he's got some really good benchmark graphs in there. RHEL 3 - create 1 million files takes 20,000 seconds. RHEL 4 with htrees - create 1 million files in 115 seconds. A wee bit of an improvement. He was talking about other changes that are already merging or have been merged into the upstream kernels that we'll see soon. Red Hat's policy is that no ext3 changes that require changes to the ondisk structure will be incorporated into a RHEL release until the change has been accepted in the upstream kernels. This prevents incompabilities from biting us. Wise move. Very few presenters have had handouts available but I've heard that they're coming. I hope they put them up where the non-attendees can read them too. Overall, the sessions and the presenters have been superb. They're also talking the time to be available for questions which is nice to see. >From talking to other attendees, everybody seems pretty pleased with the Summit so far. Hopefully we'll see another Summit again next year with even more topics being covered. Now it's off the Casino and Celebrity Poker party sponsored by HP... .../Ed p.s. Red Hat does have some live Summit coverage on their web site if you want somebody else's perspective. I just noticed that somebody posted a link to the video there. -- Ed Wilts, RHCE Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:ewilts@xxxxxxxxxx Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list