Agreed, great response Wade... Since I started this mess, I just want to set the record straight.. It's a silly training manual. RHCE books that you buy off the shelf are more comprehensive and go into more depth than the course material. There are no notes written in the book nor am I giving anything away that was on the test. Ed seems personally threatened that the purchaser of the course material will take his job or tarnish the RHCE in some way. Ridiculous. If I throw it in the trash and the garbage man reads it and passes the test, would this make any difference? This thread is dying a slow death, hopefully this will be the end of it.. -----Original Message----- From: redhat-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:redhat-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of chastaib@xxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 9:05 AM To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list Subject: Re: RHCE exam prep advice Wade, Great response. I was going to write something along the same lines, but you put it much better than I could have. This entire thread has been much ado about nothing. Ed, I respect your opinion, but you just need to relax a little. Now, let's return to our regularly scheduled program... Brian |---------+------------------------------> | | Wade Chandler | | | <wchandler@redesetg| | | row.com> | | | Sent by: | | | redhat-list-bounces| | | @redhat.com | | | | | | | | | 12/22/2004 08:41 AM| | | Please respond to | | | General Red Hat | | | Linux discussion | | | list | | | | |---------+------------------------------> >----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list@xxxxxxxxxx> | | cc: | | Subject: Re: RHCE exam prep advice | >----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------| Ed Wilts, RHCE wrote: > On 12/21/2004 07:14 PM, Jared Johnson wrote: > >> The ONLY reason Red Hat doesn't want the material "shared" as >> you stated, (but it would be better to see proof of that), is because >> they >> want to make money, money, money. Remember, they charge thousands of >> dollars >> for that material. > > > Red Hat's Training department spent thousands of dollars developing that > course. They're not just charging thousands of dollars for the course - > they're also funding their instructors' salaries, travel expenses, > computers, etc. > >> That means anyone with a few thousand dollars can get the material. > > > Yup. Red Hat does the work and you pay them for that work. People with > lots of money can buy my work too. My employer does this. Interesting > concept - you should try it some time. > >> Doesn't that just sound... wrong? > > > Nope. Expecting that you can violate somebody else's copyright and > using their work for your gain is wrong. > >> Simple matter of who has more green bucks in their pocket. > > > No. It's a simple matter of copyright law. If you don't like the law, > leave the country. Don't steal somebody else's work. > > I'm really done talking to you now. You're too unethical to continue > discussing this issue with. > Ed, I'm not a lawyer, and I assume you are not either (we're tech geeks). Anyways, why is this of consequence to you? I have yet to understand this. It's a training manual. How can I go purchase study material for the course at a book store. Was someone licensed to share the work (if that is the case then most courts would throw something like this debate out....considering he is selling the copy he bought...not making copies)? I don't know about anyone else, but I'm a book store junky, and I read some books at the shelf because I may only be needing one chapter, plus they like it when we buy coffee and sit and read. Main point....why bother someone else, when you could let Red Hat fight their own battles? I'm sure they are perfectly capable and aware. Plus, do all RHCE's keep their materials out of reach of everyone else? Do they keep them under lock and key? Sharing is allowing another person to read the material after all, and as it is with other confidential material.....allowing unauthorized access to this material in any way would be considered a fault if the agreement is that strict....negligence. Not to try to pee in your coffee, but it just seems like you are taking this too much to heart when you shouldn't be bothered with it as he is not selling his certification or answers to the exam nor personally harming you in any way. Seriously...if there are not enough RHCE's to go around then people will just start using something they can hire tech departments to support. 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