Re: SendMail sending garbage mails

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On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, Duncan wrote:

if it was ipchains you would do the follwoing ;

#allowing localhost
 /sbin/ipchains -A input  -j ACCEPT -p all -s localhost -d localhost -i lo
 /sbin/ipchains -A output -j ACCEPT -p all -s localhost -d localhost -i lo

#Deny packets from internet claiming to be from localhost and log
 /sbin/ipchains -A input  -j REJECT -p all -s localhost  -i ppp+ -l

Basically that should solve your problems for now that is u dont have a
machine on your LAN spamming
Rgds

Except for the fact that the e-mails in question that generated the bounce message may not have even originated from his machine. The original e-mail does nto have enough information about the setup to allow one to deduce wether a "firewall" would help or not and randomly adding iptables rules will usually do more harm than good.


There are two probable scenario's, one is that the MX host being delivered to is accepting all mail for that domain and then trying to pass it on to the final recipient, the final recipient generates a 5xx message (perm failure) and the message then gets bounced back to the (apparent) originator who happens to be someone else - this is usually known as a joe job and is pretty much impossible to stop. Its also probably not that likely but without more information its hard to say. It is possible to do this easily with smart relay hosts that collect mail for a domain and then pass it on.

The other scenario is that something on his network (including the mail system itself) is allowing an external source to relay mail through his mail system. This could be via an open proxy, trojan, virus or other such nasty. In order to find out if this is the case he should look in his logs for outbound mail and track back where the sender was - if it was localhost then look for an open proxy or other nasty on the mail machine itself (firewalls allowing all from localhost wont stop this) and if it was from a machine on the network then investigate further on that machine (anti-virus software would be a good start) - also check that you have not turned your mail server into an open relay as that would be bad [tm]. In this case adding the firewall rules will simply stop the users/pc's from relaying mail and while it will prevent bad mail going out - will also prevent good mail from going out and so isn't really a workable solution.

Added to this - if your ISP or your firewall/filtering is allowing obviously spoofed traffic through onto your network then there is something wrong and you should complain to your providor/network admin etc. I would be suprised if your box allowed obviously spoofed traffic in by default but stranger things can happen.

--
Steve.


Duncan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nilesh" <niluforalways@xxxxxxxxx> To: "Duncan" <drack@xxxxxxxxxx>; "General Red Hat Linux discussion list" <redhat-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 2:31 PM Subject: Re: SendMail sending garbage mails


Hi Duncan,

yeah I have configured IPtables firewall on that
machine and blocked incoming packtes for other ports
except 25 port and 110
but not blocked loopback do u feel this problem is
because of loopback

Regards
Nilesh



--- Duncan <drack@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi friends,

I have some problems with my sendmail server.
it has sending some garbage mails to outside and
that
mails bouncing back to on different user that is
not
existing users.
the error are like
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal
errors -----
vbqdfwhgvokn@xxxxxxxxxx
    (reason: 550 5.5.1 No such user here)

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to data2.centrum.cz.:

DATA

<<< 550 5.5.1 No such user here 550 5.1.1 vbqdfwhgvokn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx User unknown <<< 503 5.5.2 Waiting for RCPT command

Subject:
Returned mail: see transcript for details
From:
Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON>
Date:
Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:14:34 +0530
To:
vbqdfwhgvokn@xxxxxxxxxx

The original message was received at Thu, 15 Jul
2004
21:14:34 +0530
from root@localhost

----- The following addresses had permanent
fatal
errors -----
craig@xxxxxxx
    (reason: 550 5.1.1 User unknown)
   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
550 5.1.1 craig@xxxxxxxxxx User unknown

could any one please tell me how to stop this.
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Well you definately need a firewall on your loopback
interface which does
not allow outside packets to connect  except  yo ISP
to smtp port
etc..Basically do not allow packets from the outside
.Else u have a machibe
in your LAN with a virus that is spamming , u iwll
have to monitor your
maillog .
Wat do others think ????
Rgds

Duncan Rack


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